Received: from magus.postgresql.org (magus.postgresql.org [87.238.57.229]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FBB47B4D3F for ; Sat, 7 Jul 2012 07:49:26 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [2400:c400::113:212:99:188] (helo=svana.org) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SnSZn-0007R7-Bg for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2012 10:49:25 +0000 Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SnSZH-0000P1-Tq; Sat, 07 Jul 2012 20:48:52 +1000 Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 12:48:51 +0200 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: Magnus Hagander Cc: Bruce Momjian , Daniel Farina , Robert Haas , PostgreSQL-development Subject: Re: Bug tracker tool we need Message-ID: <20120707104851.GA525@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout References: <4F8E3394.5040801@2ndQuadrant.com> <19323.1334720651@sss.pgh.pa.us> <1334758503.29544.14.camel@vanquo.pezone.net> <20120706192141.GA11753@momjian.us> <20120706234626.GB26828@momjian.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key-ID: Length=4096; ID=0x4BE62D44 X-PGP-Key-Fingerprint: AF6F C0D6 3B8A AF7D 942B D2BC 4BED FBE7 4BE6 2D44 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: kleptog@svana.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on svana.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2400:c400::113:212:99:188 (failed) X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Archive-Number: 201207/360 X-Sequence-Number: 211043 --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jul 07, 2012 at 11:36:41AM +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote: > I've never thought of it in terms of "friction", but I think that term > makes a lot of sense. And it sums up pretty much one of the things > that I find the most annoying with the commitfest app - in the end it > boils down to the same thing. I find it annoying that whenever someone > posts a new review or new comments, one has to *also* go into the CF > app and add them there. Which leads to a lot of friction, which in > turn leads to people not actually putting their comments in there, > which decreases the value of the tool. >=20 > Don't get me wrong - the cf app is a huge step up from no app at all. > But it's just not done yet. Well, if that's the issue then there are well known solutions to that.=20 Give each commitfest entry a tag, say, CF#8475 and add a bot to the mail server that examines each email for this tag and if found adds it to the CF app. This could then easily track commit messages, emails on mailing list and even bug reports. (For example, someone replys to a bug report with "See CF#8484" and then a reference to the bug thread gets pushed into the CF app.) It's also a searchable identifier, which is also useful for google. We do this at my work, it's a very low barrier method of linking different systems. Have a nice day, --=20 Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > He who writes carelessly confesses thereby at the very outset that he does > not attach much importance to his own thoughts. -- Arthur Schopenhauer --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUBT/gUEkvt++dL5i1EAQhvbQ//cj9eI/JJed6N+iP6XpFBuN2cFvlYWBze KgV/RFhnEL2NUpTw5UHjw0j6Sj1+96EKiifF5cnXHvvuiSvD8cKoX+Rnu1kyNoJE xsSLop6FY0w/tA7rDLykfu5iaQ2LWutQbuwMBQxbjEw99Hnk+S/7dndFyRPx01Pf NzfpFPc6TdR+EGocmD3jVMGy/M9ys10VeiVumrJdv+tuorGqk2YPabldV39q0sUS XQ1auwwhEgEeTfp2eOPCTgOI7TrACelSMZQSXwu9bigdsB5DL5+UltTDa+WCZL6r 1iKImQcfykSF9/eB6W8tIY47YKrC2Ze0IV+3o/PuvJ7ulHYWuNTvE1fRdqVZMMe8 33P3FZmbw3uTkcIHmiJL4+tF+Jwq4ILR+1tPJZ5KyCKboKShROvrV614d5kxylFA Ol/LbXr0WRYbJQ0fqQKpXuzf/YIOhsmoLxiIXSumvDdIYjCXVTCMd3XuAXEylU7F 9bDkVDWoHPG4FKQb/ia8bF8tgKi7Tjf9OYmEnWmyVRB4+mzcJwJ0zBIWGcSmz1hp Rv8KFGWTCeg3/PBlYyL76bJITY4/yzVwPyqJ/Q8y508420djBkZaqK0Wqexmz8f5 jv8eZsw/7JSGB8PuVd0yR0zHSWqMjiXo2GOpzw6KuM2PmiLUT4t0y6IaTewe/9o6 2cjj1P6/mgg= =B4yl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm--