Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WUbBR-0001cH-JP for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 12:19:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WUbBQ-0004Pn-1R for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 12:19:20 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:7903:4::125]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WUbBO-0004Pd-8d for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 12:19:18 +0000 Received: from smtprelay0061.b.hostedemail.com ([64.98.42.61] helo=smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WUbBL-0006pd-7n for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 12:19:17 +0000 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (b-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay06.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5F38D016; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 12:19:14 +0000 (UTC) X-Session-Marker: 616C76686572726540616C76682E6E6F2D69702E6F7267 X-Spam-Summary: 50, 0, 0, , d41d8cd98f00b204, alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org, :::::, RULES_HIT:41:355:379:599:966:967:973:988:989:1260:1277:1311:1312:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1519:1534:1540:1593:1594:1595:1596:1711:1730:1747:1777:1792:2196:2199:2393:2525:2560:2563:2682:2685:2828:2859:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3138:3139:3140:3141:3142:3352:3865:3866:3867:3868:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:3959:4321:4385:4605:4659:5007:6261:9025:9121:10004:10400:10848:10967:11026:11232:11256:11257:11638:11658:11914:12438:12517:12519:12663:12740:13069:13311:13357:13894:13895, 0, RBL:none, CacheIP:none, Bayesian:0.5, 0.5, 0.5, Netcheck:none, DomainCache:0, MSF:not bulk, SPF:fn, MSBL:0, DNSBL:none, Custom_rules:0:0:0 X-HE-Tag: knee35_337779616c634 X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 2019 Received: from eldon.alvh.no-ip.org (pc-46-10-241-201.cm.vtr.net [201.241.10.46]) (Authenticated sender: alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org) by omf13.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 12:19:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eldon.alvh.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 498B31FC9; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 09:19:12 -0300 (CLST) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 09:19:12 -0300 From: Alvaro Herrera To: Andres Freund Cc: Stephen Frost , pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: MultiXactId error after upgrade to 9.3.4 Message-ID: <20140331121912.GU9567@eldon.alvh.no-ip.org> References: <20140330040029.GY4582@tamriel.snowman.net> <20140330141135.GA4582@tamriel.snowman.net> <20140330185349.GD4582@tamriel.snowman.net> <20140331115452.GT9567@eldon.alvh.no-ip.org> <20140331115713.GA18358@alap3.anarazel.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20140331115713.GA18358@alap3.anarazel.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-hackers Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org Andres Freund wrote: > On 2014-03-31 08:54:53 -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > My conclusion here is that some part of the code is failing to examine > > XMAX_INVALID before looking at the value stored in xmax itself. There > > ought to be a short-circuit. Fortunately, this bug should be pretty > > harmless. > > > > .. and after looking, I'm fairly sure the bug is in > > heap_tuple_needs_freeze. > > heap_tuple_needs_freeze() isn't *allowed* to look at > XMAX_INVALID. Otherwise it could miss freezing something still visible > on a standby or after an eventual crash. Ah, you're right. It even says so on the comment at the top (no caffeine yet.) But what it's doing is still buggy, per this report, so we need to do *something* ... -- Álvaro Herrera http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training & Services -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers