Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WuNuY-0001gP-Qt for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 15:24:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WuNuY-0005jA-Ao for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 15:24:30 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:1501:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WuNuW-0005j1-Va for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 15:24:29 +0000 Received: from mail.anarazel.de ([217.115.131.40]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WuNuO-0007Wx-Lz for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 15:24:27 +0000 Received: from intern.anarazel.de (p5DDC5B67.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.220.91.103]) (Authenticated sender: andres@anarazel.de) by mail.anarazel.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DD3D14E8006; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 17:24:19 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 17:24:19 +0200 From: Andres Freund To: Tom Lane Cc: Robert Haas , Gurjeet Singh , Peter Eisentraut , PGSQL Hackers Subject: Re: /proc/self/oom_adj is deprecated in newer Linux kernels Message-ID: <20140610152419.GL8406@alap3.anarazel.de> References: <1316355543.12186.9.camel@vanquo.pezone.net> <15953.1316362868@sss.pgh.pa.us> <1316420754.14001.3.camel@fsopti579.F-Secure.com> <16241.1316441883@sss.pgh.pa.us> <28946.1402408948@sss.pgh.pa.us> <30117.1402411876@sss.pgh.pa.us> <30601.1402413283@sss.pgh.pa.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <30601.1402413283@sss.pgh.pa.us> X-Pg-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-hackers Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org On 2014-06-10 11:14:43 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Sure, but what's that have to do with this? Any Red Hat or PGDG RPM will > come with this code already enabled in the build, so there is no need for > anyone to have a GUC to play around with the behavior. That's imo a fair point. Unless I misunderstand things Gurjeet picked the topic up again because he wants to increase the priority of the children. Is that correct Gurjeet? I do think a GUC might be a nicer interface for this than a #define. Possibly even with a absolute reset value for the children. But only because there's no way, afaics, to explicitly reset to the default value. > >> I remain of the opinion that allowing nonprivileged people to decide > >> whether that code is active or not is unsafe from a system level. > > > On what factual basis? > > Because it would convert the intended behavior (postmaster and only > postmaster is exempt from OOM kill) into a situation where possibly > all of the database processes are exempt from OOM kill, at the whim > of somebody who should not have the privilege to decide that. Meh^3. By that argument we need to forbid superusers to create any form of untrusted functions. Forbid anything that does malloc(), system(), fork(), whatever from a user's influence. Superusers can execute code in the postmaster using shared_preload_libraries. Feigning that that's not possible isn't buying us anything. Greetings, Andres Freund -- Andres Freund http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training & Services -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers