Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yz3pe-0004Q0-2S for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sun, 31 May 2015 14:03:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yz3pd-0004Yo-FL for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sun, 31 May 2015 14:03:17 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yz3pa-0004YA-15; Sun, 31 May 2015 14:03:14 +0000 Received: from momjian.us ([72.94.173.45]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Yz3pW-0008CB-C0; Sun, 31 May 2015 14:03:13 +0000 Received: from bruce by momjian.us with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Yz3pR-0002Tp-7h; Sun, 31 May 2015 10:03:05 -0400 Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 10:03:05 -0400 From: Bruce Momjian To: Michael Paquier Cc: Andres Freund , Robert Haas , Tom Lane , Stephen Frost , Magnus Hagander , "pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org" , pgsql-core Subject: Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Message-ID: <20150531140305.GD13697@momjian.us> References: <20150529223321.GB6535@alap3.anarazel.de> <12510.1432958887@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20150530154559.GA25053@momjian.us> <20150530204727.GJ13944@alap3.anarazel.de> <20150531024845.GB13697@momjian.us> <20150531135025.GC13697@momjian.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150531135025.GC13697@momjian.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-hackers Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 09:50:25AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > +1. Complexity has increased, and we are actually never at 100% sure > > that a given bug fix does not have side effects on other things, hence > > I think that a portion of this technical debt is the lack of > > regression test coverage, for both existing features and platforms > > (like Windows). The thing is that complexity has increased, but for > > example for many features we lack test coverage, thinking mainly > > replication-related stuff here. Of course we will never get to a level > > of 100% of confidence with just the test coverage and the buildfarm, > > but we should at least try to get closer to such a goal. > > FYI, I realize that one additional thing that has discouraged code > reorganization is the additional backpatch overhead. I think we now > need to accept that our reorganization-adverse approach might have cost > us some reliability, and that reorganization is going to add work to > backpatching. Actually, code reorganization in HEAD might cause backpatching to be more buggy, reducing reliability --- obviously we need to have a discussion about that. -- Bruce Momjian http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com + Everyone has their own god. + -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers