Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YzWdW-0005B8-7P for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 20:48:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YzWdU-0004q1-U5 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 20:48:40 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:1501:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YzWdT-0004no-G9 for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 20:48:39 +0000 Received: from smtprelay0035.b.hostedemail.com ([64.98.42.35] helo=smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1YzWdQ-0001Tn-C2 for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 20:48:38 +0000 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (10.5.19.248.rfc1918.com [10.5.19.248]) by smtprelay01.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBDD82D2A12; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 20:48:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Session-Marker: 616C76686572726540616C76682E6E6F2D69702E6F7267 X-Spam-Summary: 50, 0, 0, , d41d8cd98f00b204, alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org, :::::::::, RULES_HIT:41:355:379:599:967:973:988:989:1260:1263:1277:1311:1312:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1519:1534:1541:1593:1594:1595:1596:1711:1730:1747:1777:1792:2393:2525:2560:2563:2682:2685:2733:2828:2859:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3138:3139:3140:3141:3142:3352:3865:3866:3867:3868:3870:3871:3872:3874:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:3959:4605:4659:5007:6261:9025:9121:10004:10400:10848:11232:11256:11257:11658:11914:12050:12517:12519:13069:13311:13357:13894:13895:21080, 0, RBL:none, CacheIP:none, Bayesian:0.5, 0.5, 0.5, Netcheck:none, DomainCache:0, MSF:not bulk, SPF:fn, MSBL:0, DNSBL:none, Custom_rules:0:0:0 X-HE-Tag: ghost34_6803cce8c5f15 X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 2598 Received: from alvin.alvh.no-ip.org (unknown [200.85.219.137]) (Authenticated sender: alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org) by omf11.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 20:48:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by alvin.alvh.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 28366C8C; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 17:48:16 -0300 (CLT) Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 17:48:16 -0300 From: Alvaro Herrera To: Peter Eisentraut Cc: Tom Lane , Josh Berkus , Peter Geoghegan , Pg Hackers Subject: Re: RFC: Remove contrib entirely Message-ID: <20150601204816.GC2988@postgresql.org> References: <5568B43E.5030003@agliodbs.com> <5568D5A4.3020002@agliodbs.com> <4946.1432935300@sss.pgh.pa.us> <556CBFEC.6010704@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <556CBFEC.6010704@gmx.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-hackers Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org Peter Eisentraut wrote: > But it is a valid point that we'd need to build up more extension API > tests before we start cutting back significantly on the > maybe-example-maybe-real extensions that we ship in contrib. We need to > find a good middle ground. Nowadays we can test concurrent behavior with isolationtester, and we can test APIs with src/test/modules. We can now easily add tests for lots of stuff that we don't currently test, without having modules that actually produce for-install programs or libraries. In any case, +1 on moving useful extensions to src/extensions/. I just read somewhere (not this thread?) that Debian for their 9.5 packaging is going to get rid of the postgresql-contrib package, and instead they are going to ship all that stuff in the main package. Seems they were prompted to do this because of our inaction in this area ... -- Álvaro Herrera http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers