Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YzpTc-00018K-Sf for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 16:55:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YzpTc-0001Hb-9Y for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 16:55:44 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:1501:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YzpTa-0001FG-Uu for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 16:55:43 +0000 Received: from 173-164-140-181-sfba.hfc.comcastbusiness.net ([173.164.140.181] helo=fetter.org) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1YzpTW-0007jJ-VJ for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 16:55:41 +0000 Received: by fetter.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 18B916079D; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 09:55:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 09:55:37 -0700 From: David Fetter To: Alvaro Herrera Cc: Peter Eisentraut , Tom Lane , Josh Berkus , Peter Geoghegan , Pg Hackers Subject: Re: RFC: Remove contrib entirely Message-ID: <20150602165537.GA23425@fetter.org> References: <5568B43E.5030003@agliodbs.com> <5568D5A4.3020002@agliodbs.com> <4946.1432935300@sss.pgh.pa.us> <556CBFEC.6010704@gmx.net> <20150601204816.GC2988@postgresql.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150601204816.GC2988@postgresql.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Pg-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-hackers Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 05:48:16PM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Peter Eisentraut wrote: > > > But it is a valid point that we'd need to build up more extension > > API tests before we start cutting back significantly on the > > maybe-example-maybe-real extensions that we ship in contrib. We > > need to find a good middle ground. > > Nowadays we can test concurrent behavior with isolationtester, and > we can test APIs with src/test/modules. We can now easily add tests > for lots of stuff that we don't currently test, without having > modules that actually produce for-install programs or libraries. > > In any case, +1 on moving useful extensions to src/extensions/. I > just read somewhere (not this thread?) that Debian for their 9.5 > packaging is going to get rid of the postgresql-contrib package, and > instead they are going to ship all that stuff in the main package. > Seems they were prompted to do this because of our inaction in this > area ... I suspect they may also have realized that anything not shipped in the main distribution can cause enough bureaucratic pain, as in "write a justification for the legal department for why we should install this software," to cause things simply never to get installed. Cheers, David. -- David Fetter http://fetter.org/ Phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 Yahoo!: dfetter Skype: davidfetter XMPP: david.fetter@gmail.com Remember to vote! Consider donating to Postgres: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers