Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0qo2-0007az-2I for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 12:33:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0qo1-0001CG-1m for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 12:33:01 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:1501:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0qnz-0001C6-Oz for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 12:32:59 +0000 Received: from tamriel.snowman.net ([2001:4830:167b::11]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0qnw-00009N-NO for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 12:32:58 +0000 Received: by tamriel.snowman.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 133E25F7A0; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 08:32:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 08:32:55 -0400 From: Stephen Frost To: Robert Haas Cc: "Joshua D. Drake" , "pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org" Subject: Re: RFC: Remove contrib entirely Message-ID: <20150605123255.GC26667@tamriel.snowman.net> References: <55686D84.4040202@commandprompt.com> <20150529143026.GV26667@tamriel.snowman.net> <5570739E.3020605@commandprompt.com> <55709181.1010807@commandprompt.com> <55709A0B.1000605@commandprompt.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="WQSgbNw0wznN2XtS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Editor: Vim http://www.vim.org/ X-Info: http://www.snowman.net X-Operating-System: Linux/3.13.0-46-generic (x86_64) X-Uptime: 08:19:59 up 77 days, 18:08, 25 users, load average: 0.05, 0.06, 0.05 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-hackers Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org --WQSgbNw0wznN2XtS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Robert, * Robert Haas (robertmhaas@gmail.com) wrote: > On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Joshua D. Drake wr= ote: > > 1. 15 years of the same argument (current source: pg_audit) >=20 > The argument about pg_audit has little to do with contrib. It is > primarily about code quality, and secondarily about whether one > committer can go do something unliterally when a long list of other > committers and contributors have expressed doubts about it. I would certainly welcome any further review or comments regarding the code quality of pg_audit from anyone interested in the capability. I do not agree that the code quality is significantly below that of other modules or core. There were design restrictions due to it being an extension which quite a few people had questions and concerns about, which I addressed through the discussions on the list. Further, pg_audit was originally presented by 2ndQ, worked on by multiple major contributors and committers, and had multiple committers expressing interest in committing it during the push to close out the final CF for 9.5. I understand that I've been the one who has primairly been spending time discussing it on the lists, but I was also one of the biggest nay-sayers of it over the summer last year. What changed my opinion of it? The point made by other committers that the upgrade concerns could be addressed and the strong interest from users in the capability. Painting it as the unilateral actions of one committer is uncharitable, at best. Thanks! Stephen --WQSgbNw0wznN2XtS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVcZb3AAoJEO1sijiDR2RVxGgP/A4hiOzyLLQc2CXw5Tpwgi9m YmdBG8mhIMjbl1Gwk3D2hIU8uZWrfhY44zxbbe7Kc4SpkdNiVjYc6Wx/hSqlUsKv Cws1Rb5w5/TxItvoQYo1TdFWEvERjSVVuW7m+8oGl9rY2YVH1edA9LnGahyCfVBP EUIiPxCLzm+gFVN43sxVSI4siHiVuBWlM8Fi7GX56GnEH9sOwhpeX575IHHh2ego 3QlwkT8q6Owu9Nv+7zI/33MpkzA+kOsPZsAiEMvlah+vyyhACZV27nEfaKX6UOIW 9YiD/xhizNOcEQGTwg0fFXgM3HjZTBo3pBhiETxMrV7FEBw9kRq9j1YdQpKvzixZ 2NrHQxUa+ZCFl0ggST3wrN02mspO4u2qd4GG/apXxM2U7lhB9OH0m7AKdvzXmYjb sfKTw8Q+81Vh36WYVEETvlJFtsTlL/pEFghPpgbIkQUH26CXJmtd/J3ibbvTVXdG ZiMvaDTj2aD2FyL5xbOC1FsmEeQfH411v+hrLEwLBOgHNUbR0r460GtAMkwm78bf qOGTKnjVx6GpFbNpV2ta8iLDI2EGiEQ88BydGpeSjh1V0ihFB9jP0A91ri7zItQ+ Np0Em0slfrVw0DeAAMk3ZuhgAekWgR/HFLY0kJ3rkerRHOZM3dgsdx7ze7amjhLP fz+SAfAhwTO851bAfpnu =lCml -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --WQSgbNw0wznN2XtS--