Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bGDcw-0000lt-VY for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 23:01:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bGDcw-0001MS-Bn for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 23:01:38 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bGDbY-0006UN-9f for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 23:00:12 +0000 Received: from smtprelay0235.b.hostedemail.com ([64.98.42.235] helo=smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bGDbU-0000Sg-8R for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 23:00:11 +0000 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (10.5.19.248.rfc1918.com [10.5.19.248]) by smtprelay03.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E74D1A739B; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 23:00:02 +0000 (UTC) X-Session-Marker: 616C76686572726540616C76682E6E6F2D69702E6F7267 X-Spam-Summary: 50,0,0,,d41d8cd98f00b204,alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org,:::::::::::::::,RULES_HIT:41:355:379:599:965:967:973:988:989:1260:1263:1277:1311:1312:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1519:1534:1540:1593:1594:1595:1596:1711:1730:1747:1777:1792:2194:2199:2393:2525:2560:2563:2682:2685:2693:2828:2859:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3138:3139:3140:3141:3142:3352:3865:3866:3867:3868:3870:3871:3872:3874:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:3959:4250:4390:4605:4659:5007:6261:7903:9025:9108:9121:10004:10400:10848:11026:11232:11256:11257:11658:11914:12296:12517:12519:12663:13069:13161:13229:13311:13357:13439:13894:13895:14721:14764:21063:21080:21324:30012:30054,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:fn,MSBL:0,DNSBL:none,Custom_rules:0:0:0,LFtime:3,LUA_SUMMARY:none X-HE-Tag: seed62_74ae682dbcf29 X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 2097 Received: from alvin.alvh.no-ip.org (unknown [216.155.90.98]) (Authenticated sender: alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org) by omf14.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 23:00:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by alvin.alvh.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 66C7C485; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 18:59:57 -0400 (CLT) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 18:59:57 -0400 From: Alvaro Herrera To: Andres Freund Cc: Robert Haas , Amit Kapila , Thomas Munro , Stephen Frost , Michael Paquier , Masahiko Sawada , "pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org" Subject: Re: Reviewing freeze map code Message-ID: <20160623225957.GA230122@alvherre.pgsql> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20160623224224.ubztdvhfx6bwkphu@alap3.anarazel.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Pg-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-hackers Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org Andres Freund wrote: > I'm looking into three approaches right now: > > 3) Use WAL logging for the already_marked = true case. > 3) This approach so far seems the best. It's possible to reuse the > xl_heap_lock record (in an afaics backwards compatible manner), and in > most cases the overhead isn't that large. It's of course annoying to > emit more WAL, but it's not that big an overhead compared to extending a > file, or to toasting. It's also by far the simplest fix. I suppose it's fine if we crash midway from emitting this wal record and the actual heap_update one, since the xmax will appear to come from an aborted xid, right? I agree that the overhead is probably negligible, considering that this only happens when toast is invoked. It's probably not as great when the new tuple goes to another page, though. -- Álvaro Herrera http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers