Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cEld6-0008N5-O8 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2016 23:28:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cEld5-0004VE-Q4 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2016 23:28:03 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:1501:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cEld5-0004V8-9T for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2016 23:28:03 +0000 Received: from smtprelay0113.b.hostedemail.com ([64.98.42.113] helo=smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cEld1-0003i6-NI for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2016 23:28:02 +0000 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (10.5.19.248.rfc1918.com [10.5.19.248]) by smtprelay03.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E0F21A7014; Wed, 7 Dec 2016 23:27:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Session-Marker: 616C76686572726540616C76682E6E6F2D69702E6F7267 X-Spam-Summary: 50,0,0,,d41d8cd98f00b204,alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org,:::::::,RULES_HIT:41:355:379:599:967:973:988:989:1260:1277:1311:1312:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1519:1534:1540:1593:1594:1595:1596:1711:1730:1747:1777:1792:2393:2525:2561:2564:2682:2685:2828:2859:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3138:3139:3140:3141:3142:3352:3865:3866:3867:3868:3871:3872:3874:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:3959:4605:5007:6119:6261:7903:8957:8985:9010:9025:9121:10004:10400:10848:11232:11658:11914:12043:12438:13069:13311:13357:13439:13894:13895:14764:21080:21450:30054,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:fn,MSBL:0,DNSBL:none,Custom_rules:0:0:0,LFtime:2,LUA_SUMMARY:none X-HE-Tag: sea12_287068db4c85b X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 1868 Received: from alvin.alvh.no-ip.org (unknown [179.56.97.120]) (Authenticated sender: alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org) by omf11.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Wed, 7 Dec 2016 23:27:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by alvin.alvh.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6477E93A; Wed, 7 Dec 2016 20:27:46 -0300 (CLST) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2016 20:27:46 -0300 From: Alvaro Herrera To: Tom Lane Cc: Alex Hunsaker , Robert Haas , "pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org" Subject: Re: Back-patch use of unnamed POSIX semaphores for Linux? Message-ID: <20161207232746.ufv2uu6gb3cqcmb5@alvherre.pgsql> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <32665.1481150572@sss.pgh.pa.us> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20161104 (1.7.1) X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-hackers Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org Tom Lane wrote: > Hmm ... after further experimentation, I still can't get this version of > systemd (231) to do anything evil. It turns out that Fedora ships it with > KillUserProcesses turned off by default, and maybe having that on is a > prerequisite for the other behavior? But that doesn't make a lot of sense > because we'd never be seeing the reports of databases moaning about lost > semaphores if the processes got killed first. Anyway, I see nothing bad > happening if KillUserProcesses is off, while if it's on then the database > gets shut down reasonably politely via SIGTERM. > > Color me confused ... maybe systemd's behavior has changed? https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/ZNQW72UP36UAFMX53HPFFQTWTQDZVJ3M/ -- Álvaro Herrera https://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers