Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cmR8L-00035g-M6 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 20:27:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cmR8L-0004Rs-6v for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 20:27:29 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cmR8K-0004Rj-MD for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 20:27:28 +0000 Received: from mail-qk0-x22c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22c]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cmR8I-0006WV-DD for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 20:27:28 +0000 Received: by mail-qk0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id p64so185654593qke.1 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 12:27:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=2ndquadrant-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=hx3mKYUtYeqeTo54C4fT1JFCzINKR+32Hyo+PpBswek=; b=zBcrNepOV/68ymCcb6QMyTX1qCLA/njZgY+54v8/nB7VTpynSkri6C+PfQfHiYgDav 2aPBMQi9ptRcbWRkDQ3OBWuL4TETCKiMXcqk4pfXXnTd+VrWzCBTd23My2aV3aNtCCXk WASJsFnHaEjLWzN+hL815sNQkKnmFGJ8gb85m7QkJ2mgj/4lyTkWQe5USAKdRXGteg7c D2vij37uqKhJkoq9nDYQr+hw7gq8oJRPCm5jYYAY0qehCPgmGLKuO5EgyOFWFTEnixaF rEH7XfS511qs0Q54YKgvwonmtCSpWGEx6dWVMvSVekrY//ucD1+F1GmsE/IFSjJbHBLF Mc1g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mime-version :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=hx3mKYUtYeqeTo54C4fT1JFCzINKR+32Hyo+PpBswek=; b=YJU/LDOzyBhFKoQc4VKulEBU1nEDf/VZmrCv1rlJzpEH2Td2Zu9J6+RDialn4Z6CWi YCJe3KO/kD+TeGJS6PB61RUTyI8jU46xnhGSTD38Ddz49DVoFN1cnV433+vf+ABwln0N wCCvNEped9zkXSylswqc+nj1puVrbJFS3rkqfAkHlSZ0LCGTc6vbjKbK29gnu0yG+Rzz DP1Qw6Fbf21zJYA3ILgmRtmIXsE7pD2pd7ZBv+EUoHOW0awH0oVx48o+2cwfU1ANTYKT MKd8kU2dKarJxUQM+dqCEAkNuPGjsEDk6rixjW5JnNErynHl7uPXhd99wAcaX/6yFvs9 2gjw== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39k2PT8ZCShCsPiCAwaERx+jCF/2XOngYMG2ZiIM/YstqKRHRsViJjZr2nCyiWDU3xQB X-Received: by 10.200.42.66 with SMTP id l2mr21902759qtl.33.1489177644918; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 12:27:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from alvin.alvh.no-ip.org ([179.57.115.10]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d26sm7036182qtg.26.2017.03.10.12.27.24 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 10 Mar 2017 12:27:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by alvin.alvh.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B555D586; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 17:27:22 -0300 (CLST) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 17:27:22 -0300 From: Alvaro Herrera To: Tom Lane Cc: Euler Taveira , Robert Haas , Joe Conway , "pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org" Subject: Re: Upgrading postmaster's log messages about bind/listen errors Message-ID: <20170310202722.shpauoi6zcpptu2k@alvherre.pgsql> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <15080.1489177388@sss.pgh.pa.us> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170206-195-7adf12 (1.7.2) X-Pg-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-hackers Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org Tom Lane wrote: > Euler Taveira writes: > > 2017-03-10 1:43 GMT-03:00 Tom Lane : > >> 2017-03-09 23:40:12.334 EST [19335] LOG: MultiXact member wraparound > >> protections are now enabled > > > It should be DEBUG1 as soon as 9.3 is deprecated. > > Uh, what's that got to do with it? I'm not proposing to downgrade this > message in 9.3, or indeed any current release branch. But it's hard > to believe that a 9.3 installation that had the problem would manage > to make it all the way to a v10 upgrade without the problem having been > fixed. Even if there's one or two incompetent DBAs out there whom > that would apply to, I don't think the rest of the world needs to keep > seeing this message by default. Well, you could take a broken 9.3 installation and pg_upgrade it to pg10. It wouldn't be any less broken. There's still people running buggy 9.3 releases, as we see in these lists every now and then. -- Álvaro Herrera https://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers