Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d5OuW-0003Cx-II for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 02 May 2017 03:55:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d5OuV-0001pY-Vz for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 02 May 2017 03:55:36 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d5OuU-0001nm-OF for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Tue, 02 May 2017 03:55:34 +0000 Received: from mail-pf0-x22f.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22f]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d5OuQ-0003BQ-0X for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Tue, 02 May 2017 03:55:33 +0000 Received: by mail-pf0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id v14so82855612pfd.2 for ; Mon, 01 May 2017 20:55:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=leadboat.com; s=google; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=OV3nBMNhokYzf2OCp/njTLjGvTHrbWwUCjOd9fZIisE=; b=XAzRANamtEbh1b8DsXDJcXF9LNbaOki4e2BUMCNa8AydfCoGVw8IsiFd2VxyzD0+OO 8e8mF04h1lsdRPZTfRmerlnWswC/8XgAHb5DqDaZOkTcRn/6Qi+fgc/9MoSgCODQT/sO rGjiTdaZ/h3eUdj2KmmvWP2NtERDlt5RcBN3o= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=OV3nBMNhokYzf2OCp/njTLjGvTHrbWwUCjOd9fZIisE=; b=XhcRVP/Jy4ZvVig0wQ22Z2opOkEawlqawOYUMIWEXGJ9gxlbRygHlFAPm+ModSIB9k jslnZf1F0YPXRXgwtoLfZMijatt+vCtod9U/uwMjmXFstsZuiQ/tW2Eu9oMYhT29JBx2 02TP8FHJcdEk0NheVEBJ3o5kAaYTZKzbh9mfmpr85/SP7T2Dv76u1ID1UwAau2GLXmNL JU7YhFPD6dWp0J4CxSCwYWcDsfJLEfr80WbDMF5kihFnx2Igc+6NsAh1QfvI/DVcin1U DwXlVYdHl55NmAb/FJNMeIVzDQKcpeCOmCDiulpb47bG8GZrJmhMuW2SbBWcBxOx39oC QBXQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/7y389n3YkhmN44zrUNBbq2hVoh9yjEg9t5MpCFpNfbKiKAMStF 1rWnHEllE6YXWw== X-Received: by 10.98.21.5 with SMTP id 5mr1059120pfv.71.1493697327651; Mon, 01 May 2017 20:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfd.leadboat.com (c-98-248-47-228.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [98.248.47.228]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h89sm28160943pfh.45.2017.05.01.20.55.25 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 01 May 2017 20:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 20:55:23 -0700 From: Noah Misch To: Andres Freund , Tom Lane Cc: Petr Jelinek , Peter Eisentraut , Erik Rijkers , David Steele , PostgreSQL-development , Robert Haas , Craig Ringer , pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org Subject: Re: snapbuild woes Message-ID: <20170502035523.GA833767@rfd.leadboat.com> References: <20170413045812.GA2917375@tornado.leadboat.com> <20170417020404.GB2988768@tornado.leadboat.com> <20170418041657.hvwss6hz73ghozp5@alap3.anarazel.de> <20170420000906.75t6uo7bof5pazrq@alap3.anarazel.de> <20170422053458.z7kmzopqdyi2tai4@alap3.anarazel.de> <20170429214201.GB799290@rfd.leadboat.com> <4387.1493642807@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20170501160918.j27fvngzuwspg7d6@alap3.anarazel.de> <16845.1493656327@sss.pgh.pa.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <16845.1493656327@sss.pgh.pa.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Pg-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-hackers Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org On Mon, May 01, 2017 at 12:32:07PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Andres Freund writes: > > On 2017-05-01 08:46:47 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > >> 30sec is kind of a big lump from a buildfarm standpoint, especially if > >> you mean "it runs for 30s on my honkin' fast workstation". I'm fine > >> with individual tests that run for ~ 1sec. > > > I was more thinking of pgench -T$XX, rather than constant number of > > iterations. I currently can reproduce the issues within like 3-4 > > minutes, so 5s is probably not quite sufficient to get decent coverage. You might hit the race faster by adding a dedicated stress test function to regress.c. > IMO the buildfarm is mainly for verifying portability, not for > trying to prove that race-like conditions don't exist. Perhaps so, but it has excelled at both tasks. -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers