Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dhd9R-0008CD-Bs for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 14:49:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dhd9Q-0005FK-2T for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 14:49:00 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dhd9P-0005F9-FT for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 14:48:59 +0000 Received: from mail-qt0-x22d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::22d]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dhd9L-0007hz-SI for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 14:48:58 +0000 Received: by mail-qt0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id a18so5569811qta.0 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 07:48:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=2ndquadrant-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=Rb0fORvHnnNvcQAQiC4CROW1Gc5Ae6Y7TSnb3q1mR/s=; b=wG0oBSdbOLvaLLGUHNM8rFYR1fkSALw2E3Gmn+sVwI216ZCWALVr7GOCRlMtsXkNfO ISFN+hBtxEoP7zesG8ri2qJxSs7vB6cbxoo0Ud+IlZ3Af8cPMI9ECwX2j94bk/V/230X e32ggShoHnNzwmiw/HwrqMUNV9kxef7nLTgcCP7p2V1WN+XKp0Ul0VmCOH6Y1qnopeEc lbRDL6F+/yVKk6Jfd8bGmLPn31WgkGQRM55fXlq/EQV5YJUFdEdDI17Szwwg+e14rYlH /lIR76ANGJ+YcEx5fa7E4IUXvFHIhDBeDP9/6MPzj2sOotVCcPDuvx2G5K/MpnUccXw0 u2mg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mime-version :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=Rb0fORvHnnNvcQAQiC4CROW1Gc5Ae6Y7TSnb3q1mR/s=; b=nhi5trJK5vOpVjKaVmqsBbL5RQatwjMCJhFNL+Vc9uSQJLbRmyu7NwhBuibC3u3uPv Rydk6erdQWWnobvlFrb7qf95m5veYRaSfOjCZ6mJ1begC7zQzVbKTaBwoFVSiXH5T9J1 7m86GvesXnzdjEMDUrIZvcXiLQoAIiZbwUEo3D7jAZp6vKlkFIHhOuT75JWSB6M/1BDj mORFjpSxzxixq7ENGoUuzT53+6tXb18SU57UVLu0DvnO4Og9+COW6VolIqvqYJ5VhtOV uQnVCXnUwZys91+bMHDm4L8sdbXZW8Uy2kgKi+dCs6/+5W4/9P9LWkyLXXjWrDTtjc9c tcCw== X-Gm-Message-State: AHYfb5idx7UqfdbWOhll0SLP8vhNxXKCa7Eky11Skd6Nntiz25B2AZWr A06vUqNLQ/JgJceP X-Received: by 10.237.38.132 with SMTP id q4mr36600365qtd.321.1502808533906; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 07:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alvin.alvh.no-ip.org ([179.56.98.158]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a1sm6676484qkb.38.2017.08.15.07.48.53 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Tue, 15 Aug 2017 07:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by alvin.alvh.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5058A4BA7; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 11:48:51 -0300 (-03) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 11:48:51 -0300 From: Alvaro Herrera To: Tom Lane Cc: Robert Haas , Andres Freund , Thomas Munro , Dilip Kumar , Pg Hackers Subject: Re: shared memory based stat collector (was: Sharing record typmods between backends) Message-ID: <20170815144851.pzpteeeiirdwaz3l@alvherre.pgsql> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <26393.1502805298@sss.pgh.pa.us> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170306-137-4415bd-dirty (1.8.0) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-hackers Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org Tom Lane wrote: > Robert Haas writes: > > I really, really strongly encourage you to rip the use of DSA out here > > entirely. It is reducing the reliability of a critical part of the > > system for no actual benefit other than speculation that this is going > > to be better in the future, and it adds a bunch of failure cases that > > we could just as well live without. > > FWIW, I vote with Robert on this. When and if you actually want to make > that array resizable, it'd be time to introduce use of a DSA. But right > now we need to be looking for simple and reliable solutions for v10. Okay, I'll make it so. -- Álvaro Herrera https://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers