Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ePAJM-0004aG-Vt for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 13 Dec 2017 16:55:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ePAJK-0003KO-HM for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 13 Dec 2017 16:55:10 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:1501:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ePAJK-0003HU-7X for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 13 Dec 2017 16:55:10 +0000 Received: from smtprelay0168.b.hostedemail.com ([64.98.42.168] helo=smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ePAJH-0003XK-69 for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Wed, 13 Dec 2017 16:55:09 +0000 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (10.5.19.248.rfc1918.com [10.5.19.248]) by smtprelay03.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E601E1A73AD; Wed, 13 Dec 2017 16:55:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Session-Marker: 616C76686572726540616C76682E6E6F2D69702E6F7267 X-Spam-Summary: 50,0,0,,d41d8cd98f00b204,alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org,:::::::,RULES_HIT:41:355:379:599:967:973:988:989:1260:1277:1311:1312:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1519:1534:1541:1593:1594:1595:1596:1711:1730:1747:1777:1792:2393:2525:2560:2563:2682:2685:2828:2859:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3138:3139:3140:3141:3142:3353:3865:3866:3867:3868:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:3959:4250:4605:5007:6261:7809:7903:8526:9025:9121:10004:10400:10848:11232:11658:11914:12740:12895:13069:13161:13229:13311:13357:13439:13894:13895:14721:14764:21080:21627:30041:30054:30056:30070,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:0,DNSBL:none,Custom_rules:0:0:0,LFtime:1,LUA_SUMMARY:none X-HE-Tag: toes39_f2a5fdab2e3b X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 2766 Received: from alvin.alvh.no-ip.org (unknown [190.8.79.154]) (Authenticated sender: alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org) by omf09.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Wed, 13 Dec 2017 16:55:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by alvin.alvh.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BA43CFC2; Wed, 13 Dec 2017 13:55:01 -0300 (-03) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 13:55:01 -0300 From: Alvaro Herrera To: Tomas Vondra Cc: Robert Haas , Ildus Kurbangaliev , "pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org" Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Message-ID: <20171213165501.rita5g7kepdcimwr@alvherre.pgsql> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170306-137-4415bd-dirty (1.8.0) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk Tomas Vondra wrote: > On 12/13/2017 01:54 AM, Robert Haas wrote: > > 3. Compression is only applied to large-ish values. If you are just > > making the data type representation more compact, you probably want to > > apply the new representation to all values. If you are compressing in > > the sense that the original data gets smaller but harder to interpret, > > then you probably only want to apply the technique where the value is > > already pretty wide, and maybe respect the user's configured storage > > attributes. TOAST knows about some of that kind of stuff. > > Good point. One such parameter that I really miss is compression level. > I can imagine tuning it through CREATE COMPRESSION METHOD, but it does > not seem quite possible with compression happening in a datatype. Hmm, actually isn't that the sort of thing that you would tweak using a column-level option instead of a compression method? ALTER TABLE ALTER COLUMN SET (compression_level=123) The only thing we need for this is to make tuptoaster.c aware of the need to check for a parameter. > > I don't think TOAST needs to be entirely transparent for the > > datatypes. We've already dipped our toe in the water by allowing some > > operations on "short" varlenas, and there's really nothing to prevent > > a given datatype from going further. The OID problem you mentioned > > would presumably be solved by hard-coding the OIDs for any built-in, > > privileged compression methods. > > Stupid question, but what do you mean by "short" varlenas? Those are varlenas with 1-byte header rather than the standard 4-byte header. -- Álvaro Herrera https://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services