Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ePx8e-0005Un-Rc for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 21:03:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ePx8e-00051G-7E for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 21:03:24 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ePx8e-000515-0j for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 21:03:24 +0000 Received: from smtprelay0048.b.hostedemail.com ([64.98.42.48] helo=smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ePx8U-0002gQ-Jp for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 21:03:23 +0000 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (10.5.19.248.rfc1918.com [10.5.19.248]) by smtprelay02.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8859D3995; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 21:02:56 +0000 (UTC) X-Session-Marker: 616C76686572726540616C76682E6E6F2D69702E6F7267 X-Spam-Summary: 50,0,0,,d41d8cd98f00b204,alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org,:::::::::,RULES_HIT:41:355:379:599:960:967:973:988:989:1260:1277:1311:1312:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1519:1534:1542:1593:1594:1595:1596:1711:1730:1747:1777:1792:2393:2525:2560:2563:2682:2685:2692:2693:2828:2859:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3138:3139:3140:3141:3142:3354:3865:3866:3867:3868:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:3959:4250:4605:5007:6261:7809:7903:8784:9025:9121:10004:10394:10400:10848:11658:11914:12296:12663:12679:13053:13439:13894:13895:21080:21220:21627:30012:30029:30054:30056:30069,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:0,DNSBL:none,Custom_rules:0:0:0,LFtime:2,LUA_SUMMARY:none X-HE-Tag: help11_70f22a9b28836 X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 3414 Received: from alvin.alvh.no-ip.org (unknown [179.57.113.18]) (Authenticated sender: alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org) by omf12.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 21:02:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by alvin.alvh.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F1DBC90F; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 18:02:53 -0300 (-03) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 18:02:53 -0300 From: Alvaro Herrera To: Robert Haas Cc: David Rowley , Simon Riggs , Pg Hackers , Maksim Milyutin Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: Local indexes for partitioned table Message-ID: <20171215210253.dhixou5smlw27kos@alvherre.pgsql> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170306-137-4415bd-dirty (1.8.0) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk Hmm, so I'm now unsure what the actual proposals for handling pg_dump are. We seem to have the following three proposals: 1. Alvaro: use CREATE INDEX ON ONLY (not recursive ), followed by CREATE INDEX ON , followed by ALTER INDEX ATTACH PARTITION . I provide an ALTER INDEX DETACH PARTITION for symmetry and because it can be used to replace the index. Pros: the database is always restored identically to what was in the original. Con: The index hierarchy might be "partial", that is, lack a component index on some partition. 2. David's: use CREATE INDEX ON , followed by CREATE INDEX ON . This will use the matching mechanism to automatically attach the index on partition to index on parent. If some partition lacks a matching index, one is created automatically by the creation on parent. If you want to replace the index on a partition, use a new (as yet unimplemented) ALTER INDEX REPLACE. No need to add ONLY to the table name in CREATE INDEX, since the command always recurses. (This seems good to me, because I Pro: the index is never "partial" (missing a partition). Con: the matching mechanism might choose a different index on restore than what was selected in the database being dumped. 3. Robert's: use CREATE INDEX ON ONLY , which creates a shell index on parent only (no recursion), followed by CREATE INDEX ON . DETACH is not provided. If you ATTACH an index for a partition that already has one index attached, then (1) the newly attached one replaces the original (i.e. effectively REPLACE) or (2) you get an error and we implement a separate ALTER INDEX REPLACE command. It's not clear to me how or when the shell index becomes a real index. Robert, can you please clarify the terms of your proposal? How is it better than mine? Is David's concern about a "partial" index (i.e. an index that doesn't exist in some partition) solved by it? I have code for proposals 1 and 2. I don't like proposal 2, and David & Ashutosh don't like (1). Maybe if we all understand (3) we can agree on using that one? -- Álvaro Herrera https://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services