Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([2a02:16a8:dc51::56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1flJMy-00063N-CZ for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 02 Aug 2018 19:34:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1flJMx-0002t7-2n for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 02 Aug 2018 19:34:43 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1flJJO-0007x5-Cj for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 02 Aug 2018 19:31:03 +0000 Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1flJJD-0005zN-3L for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Thu, 02 Aug 2018 19:30:59 +0000 Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85BCA20F02; Thu, 2 Aug 2018 15:30:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 02 Aug 2018 15:30:48 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=anarazel.de; h= cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= fm2; bh=9MSNjP5urqbM1jDSvly6H/QKGzQtXAHoUKcSQ8q+Ioc=; b=TgpWRzD9 oEf6VhdZB84DsWDyeRV8zA/7lR/86cKau9bu6EFZEzRS6Bqfhee7BHV2ZSzN+3Ta G3D+LzF9+ENBBpgJN99XlGNFTtFqI2M9U7ZJ0Qug/WlvDKYb6sIuMTpPmWLhq79b 09ZjKJrrHv7BMBlNYfj88nmVqblOBzUBpuRU5GrPNVryeAvun7pktl+qdBHckBU4 m23xJC4PWL8siQtkMxXx1je8c4yx7zVmT4dljTUdQVUEmayLKZzuQgL/47M/yh58 imAdyi25tj+rOL/RcReKtyX1hN/XqJgJCta2WHcHf6y6wYmt0CkfgqkmVfyYDzfv qG0nmy9++kSzSQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=9MSNjP5urqbM1jDSvly6H/QKGzQtX AHoUKcSQ8q+Ioc=; b=P1kiwyQ5I+jDI+pFjfb0JhjnR7/qVYq2kLSeGzTpzkq7S KZs3pCdMjReALWz8uGP/x4tMA7WshKNyPu46zuqykyiatqQ/AHxfHNp9AmboVnVQ cNsXmPqzpCUBA7p0l9ABu3b2HDaTfwLA1Zpslsvb88e0EGzi0YcLvzXIBp9HNSbJ 9KrnzFbxJqvfS3ZGf3UZV8/FA1BtNqpgtLEp7Al/qP3cT+Fxod33xSCc0tWeOJZX uDG3xCQ8eG4xHCJHehvUnfxTTHQQ3hUdQMJ7A62BDNQi2eSk2OrMxWzB7vF/FmwG EBowAw99CFbJwLbtnURF2so1SShUrA3p6oLKRaKdQ== X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Sender: Received: from intern.anarazel.de (unknown [172.58.91.136]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E255FE461E; Thu, 2 Aug 2018 15:30:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 12:30:46 -0700 From: Andres Freund To: Robert Haas Cc: Etsuro Fujita , Ashutosh Bapat , Rajkumar Raghuwanshi , pgsql-hackers , Tom Lane Subject: Re: Expression errors with "FOR UPDATE" and postgres_fdw with partition wise join enabled. Message-ID: <20180802193046.5bdk73tsjthzqqer@alap3.anarazel.de> References: <5B55886F.5090906@lab.ntt.co.jp> <5B5712C8.9030404@lab.ntt.co.jp> <5B59BA55.30200@lab.ntt.co.jp> <5B619D23.4010000@lab.ntt.co.jp> <5B62E8E3.8060402@lab.ntt.co.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk Hi, On 2018-08-02 15:19:49 -0400, Robert Haas wrote: > Does anyone else want to weigh in on this? It seems to me that there > are several people who are quite willing to complain about the fact > that this hasn't been fixed, but not willing to express an opinion > about the shape of the fix. Either the RMT needs to take executive > action, or we need some more votes. (taking my RMT hat off, as it's not been coordinated) Well, I think it's enough in the weeds that not too many people are going to have an informed opinion on this, and I'm not sure uninformed opinions help. But I do think the fact that one of the authors and the committer are on one side, and Tom seems to tentatively agree, weighs quite a bit here. As far as I can tell, it's "just" Etsuro on the other side - obviously his opinion counts, but it doesn't outweigh others. I think if you feel confident, you should be ok just commit the approach you favor, and I read you as being confident that that's the better approach. Greetings, Andres Freund