Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gt0nv-0002FX-Ct for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 01:54:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gt0ns-0002Su-0v for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 01:54:36 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gt0nr-0002Sn-Mm for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 01:54:35 +0000 Received: from mail-qk1-x743.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::743]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gt0nj-0005gD-G6 for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 01:54:34 +0000 Received: by mail-qk1-x743.google.com with SMTP id y140so5544131qkb.9 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 17:54:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=2ndquadrant-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=YWsMdkLYBq1fXJ7hDqFJMDC4yAGxtZYmyZ8TWrCKqh0=; b=xYcY+HNto4yQr6Y+t27r2rXExJyT14DZMSL+nJZgclDRDTEHnIHClvDVn7cidY/hds Kn9n4n6VXweExXl9aHw7hnCnmdAZjS3rWAZWsKIOt+qT4WkW1nJFBou08/PbbBH1Obvs xw71qJa8M/e8ey/Wv7S3iNVTEhTof7ZIQz2PrhXZO+ciEuilYDqK+FMVPcBwV21G1TVG /uaX5i/PQX/AadvPG4kaY62L/IZ30iyktt5qdneKAt6XXi0Ji5EIVjTYLzGsVEw0OxO5 TiQ+5bHH+1idDyOh5LVMpgSGcqvW+ibmyyLEZXChwLIIPJf//Z3vRnkT8zEqTKGMWAth 8VLA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mime-version :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=YWsMdkLYBq1fXJ7hDqFJMDC4yAGxtZYmyZ8TWrCKqh0=; b=er56f42r/9JpCWxfh7ybSx5THGayysDRNYyuSYShn7uak8qFORH/8JglaJ0DkeMl8o 6C7Y+yjst2IYAMAgTZ4o9MOXstoMrDuch5mpab3PhjPmefbG2lNKKS3TwastUmG3ElJj 7dfropEWybNkhT8HdnKN/fPn91T4VUsoCjeaSfaTlgSIEOVFU0rfkRCWWaQZTH4GT6F3 pgbh+FWCDJq9GyM8sjQrj0U1dWQ30xkTeffKNT5hy8DWB4KTLeG6rviSGOmA0HV9FXL6 F/3DnFePS4GD8Q7D0/q9/iRrLGzEsF8sgERivtC/yRdOi+eMWSfEQ0oHO6r1IuDwJCM0 LvkA== X-Gm-Message-State: AHQUAuYNE6IsE/o+9dSIV9CR6a8GVC2+RX4ROZW4TU4sSsRNcwlJ0FTj BTz1rQ07dJmxR+4+Xqf7hHJ3ig== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AHgI3Iaa+GswDOld3v+YucVFg/FRqhKLm5bD4OPTBFve7GAnuAaGubPLYSJakPbZecwa4beZhVRG5g== X-Received: by 2002:a37:9cd1:: with SMTP id f200mr23813165qke.176.1549850065558; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 17:54:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from nimloth.alvh.no-ip.org ([201.186.80.67]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p186sm9394206qkb.69.2019.02.10.17.54.24 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sun, 10 Feb 2019 17:54:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by nimloth.alvh.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1A39B1245A8; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 22:54:23 -0300 (-03) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 22:54:23 -0300 From: Alvaro Herrera To: Tom Lane Cc: Peter Geoghegan , PostgreSQL Hackers Subject: Re: Fixing findDependentObjects()'s dependency on scan order (regressions in DROP diagnostic messages) Message-ID: <20190211015423.GA16289@alvherre.pgsql> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <13445.1549832789@sss.pgh.pa.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On 2019-Feb-10, Tom Lane wrote: > Alvaro Herrera writes: > > If we disregard the scenario were people downgrade across minor > > versions, it's likely possible to produce SQL queries to transform from > > the old arrangement to the new one, and include those in release notes > > or a wiki page; not for this week's minors (ENOTIME) but maybe for the > > next one. > > Dunno ... we couldn't force people to do that, so the server would have to > be prepared to cope with either arrangement, which seems like an > impossible mess. True. -- Álvaro Herrera https://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services