Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hugnj-0003g9-CG for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 05 Aug 2019 17:29:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hugni-0008B1-4s for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 05 Aug 2019 17:29:38 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hugnh-0008Au-Se for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 05 Aug 2019 17:29:37 +0000 Received: from tamriel.snowman.net ([96.255.250.162]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hugnf-0008SF-80 for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Mon, 05 Aug 2019 17:29:37 +0000 Received: by tamriel.snowman.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5A9955F79F; Mon, 5 Aug 2019 13:29:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 13:29:35 -0400 From: Stephen Frost To: Robert Haas Cc: Tomas Vondra , Tom Lane , Amit Kapila , Ian Barwick , "pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org" Subject: Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Message-ID: <20190805172935.GK29202@tamriel.snowman.net> References: <15032.1561403529@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20190624192014.GB2480@tamriel.snowman.net> <56aff4f3-dec8-f462-7feb-0938411b04a6@2ndquadrant.com> <20190802222254.qsvqjtkwte464lu3@development> <31697.1564784856@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20190802230011.dqokdhjptykopxxc@development> <20190805142139.GW29202@tamriel.snowman.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tgc5QVcMKz3Dypql" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk --tgc5QVcMKz3Dypql Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings, * Robert Haas (robertmhaas@gmail.com) wrote: > On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 10:21 AM Stephen Frost wrote: > > Just to be clear, I brought up this exact concern back in *November*: > > > > https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/20181127153405.GX3415%40tamriel.s= nowman.net > > > > And now because this was pushed forward and the concerns that I raised > > ignored, we're having to deal with this towards the end of the release > > cycle instead of during normal development. >=20 > I disagree.=20 It's unclear what you're disagreeing with here as the below response doesn't seem to discuss the question about if these issues were brought up and pointed out previously, nor about if I was the one who raised them, nor about if we're towards the end of the release cycle. > My analysis is that you're blocking a straightforward bug > fix because we're not prepared to redesign the world to match your > expectations. The actual point of controversy at the moment, as I > understand it, is this: if the backend, while rewriting > postgresql.auto.conf, discovers that it contains duplicates, should we > (a) give a WARNING or (b) not? No, that isn't the point of the controversy nor does it relate, at all, to what you quoted above, so I don't think there's much value in responding to the discussion about WARNING or not that you put together below. Thanks, Stephen --tgc5QVcMKz3Dypql Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJdSGd/AAoJEO1sijiDR2RVvFIP/ik0iUKX018Acyyt9SBs6DPc nb0n6ISYKM0czQkxYvIeO9NQEwxz4SbYvhJlT8o2X/5g6CslE940iL3T6witvinX dwvwzGmimlZrhApkHIx/lcdyLaaRd2dFdow0JF/wtccAxu3xNypQ0zW4EwnlrPlP ZNj9v86mTJkH58ykvHQlBTPN2b4CCgAU5vHPC8IsAK/NJsS9uYn1vqIzosYqDF2s BkPW2jazF0SesyzBYF/ZWXkIX2J+kE5Tn7atU+Fu00ElmtEhC5KRYPljYvhtZqTU K67/WG+2gYMDUrEIfLrG3jo1oaBq/vQOp3tGc15tGT/FcdojZjkJvg3owa9UmUR5 9fxrtq8xI8qvq1OmXLCe05ZacuLgAAhwpyIRmENVH3UIjVNAVdeZ4jKrNxoa/OAj +TSr6d5W46OoWjfBeGVNAOaVT5MnL+wD5sbPjQ1kd00ik43m9NHGtn0kQf72rE60 5dy/kHp1n175GnqHF3EhOgf33LoM0q7lIb4BU7MdyDvkn0V1aUAgGoMKiNvSsov4 wgccyJ02FR4SnSBSDaMUYFPMvCzLm5w3g1PPIFraz3Wuf891Hu+HatTGMWvMTr6L t7unDkgWEm76ypYHjcixDeCYIH7RjIyTP3GvSMBwfTBzn3PXjoi3SbpNVjxlhAY0 ZqibAlJQ3Yw866D4SEQ2 =d9T5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tgc5QVcMKz3Dypql--