Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iejw2-0003rf-FQ for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 18:08:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iejw1-0004Te-88 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 18:08:33 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iejw0-0004TX-Uh for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 18:08:32 +0000 Received: from mail-vs1-xe41.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::e41]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iejvt-0001AY-SP for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 18:08:32 +0000 Received: by mail-vs1-xe41.google.com with SMTP id g23so13751756vsr.7 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 10:08:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=2ndquadrant-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=2ftEXvQem6r38AbeE12psy2Hk76WOa+SJYbRrVEpWMI=; b=aFGSFKdVbpW9LYgI5AAi7U+KOPTGyyN13cd7t6gr24wOfobVHQt6xakLWBG+IMioDZ z2fRmSqXlKXvABoSL2rWttKX+ovIeW+Xd+aUiIPD2OoyOBIqnaAwT/wOl85OY3B9OzVK 61SnCGbtmGSLonQLrNUSTe9Ki8ZCbjnqRyQWNXOCaonrprGAB+5komtGoyr07KbUiWbi dxkEMTlsIVrSf2K3XKOU7YSJ1puH5eetq95mL0x9B2RpySQoVG8dS3TSV/LD/ZFD8yzm XzwMckVd0JX1YBHP9Qelv2yYgmQw5vVhtr1Ok8a7RVb1IsKkt0rXJxaaYg3XRfhYOA53 q/1g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mime-version :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=2ftEXvQem6r38AbeE12psy2Hk76WOa+SJYbRrVEpWMI=; b=RGItdk+9B9B2dMsyiad9MzOMakIbW/PODPcW52yGgEQSquKs11/ew1mEX2vkOU1ybI X0REfNaXjtpLMlhVLvttqPxt9WcKtaNOP6dtQ0knb5Sjbf8Y5ZzX20H+1JNufcTuyQnz iM19wNW4n1S+TmQPcuaowVHKo3/lKTWfsgnb1zfYvqMxwzZ+Tj3kZQe00UqK8Y/S1aO5 Q1i2XYhpWPxDBsGqajrZTIZH8nOQz8XD4nAUTTAFrtr6fbWcbRLSp7jUCm4ADIamMCx3 TQULuOeysOPS+OUrRBMI0XAYKfioSKurkNINKteuAsa8+PlbdRgMcJIIXD7HOi4jb0++ UphQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAV+XuZo5AcLk1pJ9IztDaLqGeKnFU9ASSDJwbzzmCBMkC0S2pPx c7pIQ0A3hwdQUDu4h4d51qXX8A== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqy9nHhGTZH+qC8v/MlZ53QCAXVlZbgS2W72qZiFQ+oxphwzuTOqxmS6I8tOYGDYiArl0jxybw== X-Received: by 2002:a67:ad0c:: with SMTP id t12mr25941293vsl.232.1576001304379; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 10:08:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from nimloth.alvh.no-ip.org ([200.73.2.58]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a6sm2411989vsr.9.2019.12.10.10.08.23 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 10 Dec 2019 10:08:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by nimloth.alvh.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0BBC03009FF; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 15:08:21 -0300 (-03) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 15:08:21 -0300 From: Alvaro Herrera To: Tomas Vondra Cc: Kyotaro Horiguchi , pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: xact_start for walsender & logical decoding not updated Message-ID: <20191210180821.GA12847@alvherre.pgsql> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20191210115903.x5j3rfxtr3notsut@development> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On 2019-Dec-10, Tomas Vondra wrote: > On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 09:42:17AM +0900, Kyotaro Horiguchi wrote: > > At Tue, 10 Dec 2019 00:44:09 +0100, Tomas Vondra wrote in > > I'm not sure how much xact_start for walsender is useful and we really > > is not running a statement there. Also autovac launcher starts > > transaction without a valid statement timestamp perhaps for the same > > reason. > > Maybe, but then maybe we should change it so that we don't report any > timestamps for such processes. Yeah, I think we should to that. -- Álvaro Herrera https://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services