Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jHxHq-00008f-P2 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2020 22:17:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1jHxHp-0003KG-9B for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2020 22:17:09 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1jHxHo-0003K9-Pv for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2020 22:17:09 +0000 Received: from mail-pf1-x444.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::444]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jHxHm-0001tT-Ce for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2020 22:17:07 +0000 Received: by mail-pf1-x444.google.com with SMTP id q3so5136822pff.13 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2020 15:17:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=2ndquadrant-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=NNcEHxhhXltpUvwC/owe8PEWZR2I3ui6bI5V/xy66EI=; b=CuCMlSZZqbf71R5xjcMdyYF7FrEmJmjoUNWDzSucnwMyRF8EY2vcRELU+mU7yRJ3JV D2kdzIL0GmL1cy9OY01vMG00ZAWqofc/RUtlSsMISyn4+1VJRqrM8aAT822zzKubUA1R VRf86ABdKgXxtFI133xCFnTh95BvydX31dzo7FCEBezYoU9/5cly4LMAP5bXjZ/99b4O +UTVvnWjkx++V5rt0C+OtcpHCUU3B/j12cqiLqNaT5k8qOggpzCH+veAJPDvFsbwTVOO dtg8wtU9jJgy2BGdKOjwqTV7hhOn9jfKFaLXDaH8eIGJCPaDTy1E9ZkLEoqp8y1qZtyJ byow== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mime-version :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=NNcEHxhhXltpUvwC/owe8PEWZR2I3ui6bI5V/xy66EI=; b=RMGdnanZkCQKf+oJW8frneaaiO9MiJH3+Qfr7HBBKFkIZmNIJCgpC82za1NFtuipgF apZREml0eBxG28dyiJss5j5Flb+xuQ0KIAuFik46Oy3xlwxCgIkVk3g+VO0t1dKGtoKK f/q0EwtLrV8hx8s1320g1qHe7EuzM9V8kjnvSF3NKmmGe8C9WFfhUpaQ1x1Al+diMcak VbKJMEgkiE11Bh0bMXEobOcWkmYzU8RNEbS47jkWfs6OdMZHemX7lEnF1UZeXc+pyDS8 U3cEI/VKSZsqaWYXGTouUbDi4B4OO1CoGqqNSdwadQBrRom9DIibpN6UVv9dVMIoAVTS YzpA== X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ35d11RyAsK6MkrIYj5EMl+dqmfhS0KLBNwUdexSDtOK89Jf73q d5Vsyk6hnW/AZ32HPHnHa3h7Rg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vtTKAMRKqF3rugbxk78XYrclk0sf++SJasnR/NrtH5qzsIY/ThboSe6LBjCwmtp7jT3l4UtPQ== X-Received: by 2002:a65:5b04:: with SMTP id y4mr1519762pgq.25.1585347424618; Fri, 27 Mar 2020 15:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nimloth.alvh.no-ip.org ([174.128.226.18]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x24sm4864104pfn.140.2020.03.27.15.17.03 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 27 Mar 2020 15:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by nimloth.alvh.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4B448300967; Fri, 27 Mar 2020 19:17:00 -0300 (-03) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 19:17:00 -0300 From: Alvaro Herrera To: Stephen Frost Cc: Andres Freund , Robert Haas , Amit Kapila , Suraj Kharage , tushar , Rajkumar Raghuwanshi , Rushabh Lathia , Tels , David Steele , Andrew Dunstan , PostgreSQL Hackers , Jeevan Chalke , vignesh C Subject: Re: backup manifests Message-ID: <20200327221700.GA4936@alvherre.pgsql> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20200327220910.GN13712@tamriel.snowman.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On 2020-Mar-27, Stephen Frost wrote: > I don't think we should just compare all permissions or ownership with > some arbitrary idea of what we think they should be, even though if you > use pg_basebackup in 'plain' format, you actually end up with > differences, today, from what the source system has. In my view, that > should actually be fixed, to the extent possible. I posted some thoughts about this at https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/20190904201117.GA12986%40alvherre.pgsql I didn't get time to work on that myself. -- Álvaro Herrera https://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services