Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1joBGv-0007gj-Tr for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 19:41:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1joBGu-0001nW-6Y for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 19:41:24 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1joBGt-0001nP-Ri for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 19:41:23 +0000 Received: from mail-qt1-x843.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::843]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1joBGp-0001lO-9N for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 19:41:22 +0000 Received: by mail-qt1-x843.google.com with SMTP id v19so2680894qtq.10 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 12:41:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=2ndquadrant-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=aqXiVndkveaZr8dF/HZZ8p1QPgesdLxIOz7BKSww1Sg=; b=s6TEkzY8Fjk2McZFl5QXhSyy/rj6zLCh8F/eHSeU8a3+OgWMQt3FxKugnGoNM6M279 +buQQ3bXh+Mti4abXlWGJVrOdM4pjOKYqz4cbAoste+5T3Orf3yGe5nVL2ojasCroPRm HyxXHcZ8kYnvX/fBfG7yBQMSM6iDWDEwrGx3vsasMFTSRRdeQyCZEOcKrViloKuS//90 vJ3m+62JkRf3KWpUrWavevd/VlkhDlESVTfuPrfmZUkWeR9Sxp45YgtS2dp3lyiA+w8X AbzG2+9B5zsEqS90jBYgpTAjfZiz81k+yl5haLqObZtxy7QlwLw3bbj14IrImwkzXucq Uw3Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mime-version :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=aqXiVndkveaZr8dF/HZZ8p1QPgesdLxIOz7BKSww1Sg=; b=AmDh0OxTfeIeFy0wuvQSMSJmyr/AdDXrNXjxumFaFRPAuC0pR5Hdwa7GBlLALqf6ti xmv02lkoyD8LpidNqhpzPX1UC+cIV3mrurKXqocjs7Cjj88hvnjGiPXevN3WD5zfTbUd XFslPmV+I3urmaAVVryZr0w6FhdTl66aKZj2Hv/STuBHkDspMd86gVr6z7d0pJWmqFxu 1pYW84tzbyEPxrKkdDR62pkM5/ZZUqehdeFHlLpJXen/nNxCchO+0raA850VKiL1UwUR qapNX6UG4fivwawuBaz5hNQLT26EUMbH00ZNg5JPBS7RYzWuc9b8Gf8IXxGbMiiRfb6x MgEg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533hncRwfjA8Ghny7JVKTCZg2+Hs2Ur36zcZs5TDsBE7o329pFUR 67DrKPeaViyOSJBnBTXpU6oBDg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwQx3Gsr+KnmsNlWdOk6wRw1oco3xoTXWPRNW+nLgecgPOzEK1CLn18G5w4JX8H1Zt3jFziUQ== X-Received: by 2002:ac8:464f:: with SMTP id f15mr15971237qto.211.1593027677502; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 12:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from perhan.alvh.no-ip.org ([190.95.18.252]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b10sm3800911qkh.124.2020.06.24.12.41.16 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 24 Jun 2020 12:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by perhan.alvh.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C5C042A3A97; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 15:41:14 -0400 (-04) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 15:41:14 -0400 From: Alvaro Herrera To: Robert Haas Cc: Stephen Frost , Kyotaro Horiguchi , Michael Paquier , Andres Freund , "Jonathan S. Katz" , Dave Cramer , Fujii Masao , Masahiko Sawada , Vladimir Sitnikov , "pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org" , Peter Geoghegan Subject: Re: SIGSEGV from START_REPLICATION 0/XXXXXXX in XLogSendPhysical () at walsender.c:2762 Message-ID: <20200624194114.GA3886@alvherre.pgsql> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On 2020-Jun-24, Robert Haas wrote: > So really I think this turns on #1: is it plausible > that people are using this feature, however inadvertent it may be, and > is it potentially useful? I don't see that anybody's made an argument > against either of those things. Unless someone can do so, I think we > shouldn't disable this. People (specifically the jdbc driver) *are* using this feature in this way, but they didn't realize they were doing it. It was an accident and they didn't notice. -- Álvaro Herrera https://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services