Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jqTQV-0008GA-Q1 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 01 Jul 2020 03:28:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jqTQU-0006dG-OT for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 01 Jul 2020 03:28:46 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jqTQU-0006d5-Hm for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 01 Jul 2020 03:28:46 +0000 Received: from mail-qk1-x744.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::744]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jqTQR-0000GF-S8 for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 01 Jul 2020 03:28:46 +0000 Received: by mail-qk1-x744.google.com with SMTP id b185so10313009qkg.1 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2020 20:28:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=2ndquadrant-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=h0lXJsAuuTC3ABk9rQYzLZ/kp3J9YnIX5oW4U9xBhDI=; b=mh/2GrVrS1UcQUWSPsR31s0jt7xC+0ZNyTY3eYs0GdBWHwjFjuDHowK9KwmDlEtr0V 7faR6Hor2HlNXepA08NMgqLx+WYOKXAdlSAVlun39Nisp2DZwlN0CA1moLO3g5o+zIHo Zhdvjm6Tidv0drUJRlnk6h2CwXM1zaIC6KvuFnALhsoOuFUeyCXW1KKmPnKjWkFJ8blT Sf/RRCLGf77Kz7ymvJQAMYgbVut1JtYCfgGMeII+mJH5/8NcpyZqsnyuZx6b9wClyLT6 jmbT7W+f/TtfS9v6rHHMvKq51q7lY8g4z3IBHZQ+Rp+fw4kwLpak9nEDgXxoVLmzqhzg ca8Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mime-version :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=h0lXJsAuuTC3ABk9rQYzLZ/kp3J9YnIX5oW4U9xBhDI=; b=r4NWlLe40/1t8jCZorrdklL7w4FgYALViAcGUvS/5D+ZNEo//pdNJQsWglIJ5RLL8O p+vPcRrXkbFN4vWmM6KNnyKmIUSCn/SZZiMCRFKYXimreENch7ZFILQbIS5ovLechf0d 2ukLm1G7mn23XwD55a/xk4gL1210CUNB9cNoZ3LUkwiUetpytfYKvpxPTswFchjrY+s1 jk5kh2fGk+NEYVb4nda9aT/V/A0rTha1872pY+YAw0E3B2+B4+zIu5xofWJRCvde6POP hOQUklw9e5hu1xGuvLRuqmOREgyl8zUcj3a5Xr0T4oWgTHlMEN3WhZRPrJFmCfd+nOaO bluA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531WAW0YSlV2G8nLNKlTZevNFFXw4Y6Tmc7k9I42MqdxiYQVnKDC TwrdY6yhQkSHy5Ng4QvhbeBj1dFrjfF64+WX02QEY4LYVwYqeGheZnZe0vg+CqcaX9yWNG/Tew7 /J5jSPdzohhsGtCnP2VnbJTVPhIEdQ0PeZt6Tdqry03mSnEdh4Rk4sJ8IzMCufY502DoXcUYrYY IBFJKKEfQWSzLpb5Sj X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw/+rqcfPhp9ktPXdZ5Jirqcb/g64oA7G8BwoJd79SKRkeqhlwu1/c+XazCpGKSNXeUXWzaIw== X-Received: by 2002:a37:9b08:: with SMTP id d8mr23806369qke.105.1593574122132; Tue, 30 Jun 2020 20:28:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from perhan.alvh.no-ip.org ([190.95.18.252]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y67sm355190qka.101.2020.06.30.20.28.41 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 30 Jun 2020 20:28:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by perhan.alvh.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EAFB22A1680; Tue, 30 Jun 2020 23:28:39 -0400 (-04) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2020 23:28:39 -0400 From: Alvaro Herrera To: Tom Lane Cc: pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org Subject: Re: Intermittent BRIN failures on hyrax and lousyjack Message-ID: <20200701032839.GA16862@alvherre.pgsql> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <489091.1593534251@sss.pgh.pa.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On 2020-Jun-30, Tom Lane wrote: > SELECT brin_desummarize_range('brinidx', 0); > +WARNING: leftover placeholder tuple detected in BRIN index "brinidx", deleting > I think the "crash" actually was the forced autovac cancellation we see > here. Thus, the fact that both these animals use CLOBBER_CACHE_ALWAYS is > not a direct cause of the failure, though it might contribute to getting > the timing right for this to happen. Oh, interesting. > So (1) the comment needs to be adjusted to mention that vacuum > cancellation is enough to create the situation, and (2) probably the > message needs to be downgraded quite a lot, DEBUG2 or even less. > Or maybe we could just delete the quoted stanza altogether. Yeah, maybe deleting the whole thing is a decent answer. When I wrote that, I was thinking that it was a very unlikely event, but evidently that's not true. -- Álvaro Herrera https://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services