Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jtHSB-00004s-8N for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 08 Jul 2020 21:18:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jtHS9-0008NW-2e for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 08 Jul 2020 21:18:05 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jtHS8-0008NN-Rj for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 08 Jul 2020 21:18:04 +0000 Received: from mail-qt1-x844.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::844]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jtHS5-0003mg-Ga for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Wed, 08 Jul 2020 21:18:04 +0000 Received: by mail-qt1-x844.google.com with SMTP id i3so49657qtq.13 for ; Wed, 08 Jul 2020 14:18:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=2ndquadrant-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=Ougv25eFTQiOZ+Uwo4SMI3Nkn0OE9fepTGYUKkR/yQY=; b=WGgck+gu57Lkq7Q9OG6oLweISJmzTjbJcF4LA4m+F0fehhZLrXmE1kiDtAG3p0vSuw pix+KdlKrSp4yutxvHGwBwYglEQl5P77D79/xmEI44WPtP4YFuePyJUIqPi9grPx5k81 FaPiG7BX/w+nrX9LsRZPlhMlTKpPlSLnFstDd9eYjd2LGp6DmhOkw2gNFgmMZc7rwzUI /cn+oH1cNqxSHDqG9wccJrDn9ZQnx2UbcJ4WWHc/trx+zpSz8pVCvOZnr58+zewQ6SAN AXRSVbrZZ8CZqzcrfvzNgsTaOddLWOCP+EB45OUCDgWXhZ3OKTkRnbvEnxBa9QP8lTkU Qccg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mime-version :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=Ougv25eFTQiOZ+Uwo4SMI3Nkn0OE9fepTGYUKkR/yQY=; b=FV042mDcvXHjwmkXH2Ip85mTDYGwOsBXPxrdx5RaaH37jpbXeRXEqjyaJHXSXaB015 nKnvCdxRUng7Y44iWhUBAsIYmRUxWsO2c5W0lOqUqKCIUkcPt2XIa2ohqSQ0w2Hdjay0 gXtrqiuxD8RRc/p7IPP/QREBzs+d9mRsvbI5UpwE/5gIzx4N7UJJf3psWJJvZik+cgzc iwuSQyV9ET+KO5W/o34S4QYMYzUMWq+/MAD1sfvw++x+HbGjorZR7MsNmUQUUFVrSVOj zEST5hc6fosRXP1gEBFZtYuP9E62V6nYDu/mghiNmQ7ODkSo6KpcSD+cVaa0jAObRl4d B0WQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533ldM3zXJjDrNAHM7OTEjbULlM5FrX4yRhBabuf+8WBr2oLuLcF qOCwOehvnPjuwsBECo70stn6cA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyJ2nGM3PWRr/cuAiSEm/jAFulntam8zCisSb6bR7jHURcY0tVpyZTgt0Yeo+dXzgZwjJUVJg== X-Received: by 2002:ac8:4e1b:: with SMTP id c27mr62619732qtw.340.1594243079581; Wed, 08 Jul 2020 14:17:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from perhan.alvh.no-ip.org ([190.95.18.252]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 188sm1184931qkf.50.2020.07.08.14.17.58 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 08 Jul 2020 14:17:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by perhan.alvh.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 00D732A18A9; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 17:17:56 -0400 (-04) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 17:17:56 -0400 From: Alvaro Herrera To: David Steele Cc: Andres Freund , pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: language cleanups in code and docs Message-ID: <20200708211756.GA23569@alvherre.pgsql> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <362972a7-57d0-eb60-18e2-f9751bc7df6f@pgmasters.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On 2020-Jul-08, David Steele wrote: > On 7/8/20 4:39 PM, Andres Freund wrote: > I think this phrasing in the original/updated version is pretty awkward: > > + A standby server that cannot be connected to until it is promoted to a > + primary server is called a ... Yeah. > How about: > > + A standby server that must be promoted to a primary server before > + accepting connections is called a ... How about just reducing it to "A standby server that doesn't accept connection is called a ..."? We don't really need to explain that if you do promote the standby it will start accept connections -- do we? It should be pretty obvious if you promote a standby, it will cease to be a standby in the first place. This verbiage seems excessive. -- Álvaro Herrera https://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services