Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1khKqe-0007qG-6e for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 23:02:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1khKqd-0008JT-5x for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 23:02:15 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1khKqc-0008JM-W5 for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 23:02:14 +0000 Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.28]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1khKqa-00044H-UU for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 23:02:14 +0000 Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.42]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4415C01A6; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 18:02:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 23 Nov 2020 18:02:11 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy :x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=a37Q5KB9SgLS5pvu3 XrkxJZoikGd7RAn5qmwbnidEPo=; b=KN2dWoOzEOww/cYrGgdMQ+WnzzaW8DVPx SgWS1mmwgR3cRZCEpmA+zFS6Njr0DQ53SjPwFlAJ197b1hqnr9EkfBrQeViQQh6w SHFD/E6xZ+o49NnnW0CHDQWH3LE4t3f1h5MTrmmuY56/KrFLJxakQy+EBkBQGSqM XU0A/Dcz5O35wO/CSBPCuxnc5AriE7dqie4utB86aMad6DKkdrYyiOzZ1cA3ce+e xgiTopM1Ef+MNmNzTOYIQtMsOMWSE5QtEIS+2hzIOrnQEL2Ybthi9Ft2fywUjLrh n6ynqrUwLA0EEfDEv0quW9FeK3FVP4adF3TCwHd1vNLdKte+DqFjw== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedujedrudegjedgfeegucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepfffhvffukfggtggujggfsehttdertddtredvnecuhfhrohhmpeetlhhvrghr ohcujfgvrhhrvghrrgcuoegrlhhvhhgvrhhrvgesrghlvhhhrdhnohdqihhprdhorhhgqe enucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeevgfelveegueejgefhgeetgefhgeehieefheehleetteei udeiiefhgffgheffteenucfkphepudeltddrleehrddukedrjeelnecuvehluhhsthgvrh fuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomheprghlvhhhvghrrhgvsegrlhhv hhdrnhhoqdhiphdrohhrgh X-ME-Proxy: Received: from perhan.alvh.no-ip.org (unknown [190.95.18.79]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 432793280059; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 18:02:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by perhan.alvh.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9A8F62A1006; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 20:02:07 -0300 (-03) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 20:02:07 -0300 From: Alvaro Herrera To: Tom Lane Cc: Michael Paquier , Andres Freund , Dmitry Dolgov <9erthalion6@gmail.com>, James Coleman , Pg Hackers Subject: Re: "as quickly as possible" (was: remove spurious CREATE INDEX CONCURRENTLY wait) Message-ID: <20201123230207.GA2935@alvherre.pgsql> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <197162.1606171520@sss.pgh.pa.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On 2020-Nov-23, Tom Lane wrote: > Ah, I see I didn't cover the case in ProcSleep that you were originally on > about ... I'd just looked for existing references to log_min_messages > and client_min_messages. Yeah, it seemed bad form to add that when you had just argued against it :-) > I think it's important to have the explicit check for elevel >= ERROR. > I'm not too fussed about whether we invent is_log_level_output_client, > although that name doesn't seem well-chosen compared to > is_log_level_output. Just replacing "log" for "client" in that seemed strictly worse, and I didn't (don't) have any other ideas. > Shall I press forward with this, or do you want to? Please feel free to go ahead, including the change to ProcSleep.