Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1krSyv-0007A1-P1 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 21:44:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1krSyu-0008IH-Ls for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 21:44:40 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1krSyu-0008IA-F8 for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 21:44:40 +0000 Received: from momjian.us ([72.94.173.45]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1krSys-0000SU-CH for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 21:44:39 +0000 Received: from bruce by momjian.us with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1krSyo-0003AF-UO; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 16:44:34 -0500 Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 16:44:34 -0500 From: Bruce Momjian To: Stephen Frost Cc: Alastair Turner , Michael Paquier , PostgreSQL-development , Masahiko Sawada Subject: Re: Proposed patch for key managment Message-ID: <20201221214434.GL28841@momjian.us> References: <20201218213624.GG16415@tamriel.snowman.net> <20201219023844.GG28841@momjian.us> <20201219165837.GH28841@momjian.us> <20201220225909.GJ16415@tamriel.snowman.net> <20201221003321.GO16415@tamriel.snowman.net> <20201221023855.GC27507@tamriel.snowman.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20201221023855.GC27507@tamriel.snowman.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 09:38:55PM -0500, Stephen Frost wrote: > > I'll have a go at adding another keyring and/or abstracting the key > > wrap and see how well a true peer to the passphrase approach fits in. > > Having patches to review and consider definitely helps, imv. I disagree. Our order is: Desirability -> Design -> Implement -> Test -> Review -> Commit https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo#Development_Process so, by posting a patch, you are decided to skip the first _two_ requirements. I think it might be time for me to create a new thread so it is not confused by whatever is posted here. -- Bruce Momjian https://momjian.us EnterpriseDB https://enterprisedb.com The usefulness of a cup is in its emptiness, Bruce Lee