Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lgxCe-0001WR-GR for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 12 May 2021 22:19:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lgxCd-0002LU-CK for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 12 May 2021 22:19:39 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lgxCc-0002Kk-99 for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 12 May 2021 22:19:39 +0000 Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.28]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lgxCV-0001Ct-Ra for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Wed, 12 May 2021 22:19:37 +0000 Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id E66875C00E4; Wed, 12 May 2021 18:19:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 12 May 2021 18:19:30 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:subject:to :x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= fm2; bh=sOlTQyWM17nbvNMV1RVmYNGKNGgD9AZUKjRhFyd4kc8=; b=l3HAgXLj Zf8oWNK1dLZwV9XzeipoxGEtw+SVLsfoAhM9EEYILHByYMWWrcFNmxqmbUc1yGvL ad6HfaHkpRcdrmUfePgjjXt/1hnCM7pMcyUIDSiiEyxByYNc+4epE/wmGJGEvQlO isPT+mwg/zRljyFRGlVJg5kM1+V8B0MGRH706UHbbn1ctQ1XhFSckSg5IzqngGJD sxQlJNXSDCbA6SABwElAa5e8y7gMlTFA6y6zrALDU7r/cYUs05/wgHjg4eWO82nL Z4cLDTZuQHwgBIDK8KdcFtWdj/bONuJHiHJlYNJZtFKszb6ETg9B+sRdKVRdcszm g+B9lbez5FusZw== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrvdehfedgtdejucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepfffhvffukfggtggugfgjfgesthekredttderudenucfhrhhomheptehlvhgr rhhoucfjvghrrhgvrhgruceorghlvhhhvghrrhgvsegrlhhvhhdrnhhoqdhiphdrohhrgh eqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepudegieejjeetgfegleevgfejffevhedvkeehveevhfek ueffveekfedugfehkeehnecuffhomhgrihhnpegrtghtshhofhhgohhrugdrtghomhenuc fkphepudeltddrleehrdduledrleehnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghr rghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomheprghlvhhhvghrrhgvsegrlhhvhhdrnhhoqdhiphdrohhrgh X-ME-Proxy: Received: from perhan.alvh.no-ip.org (unknown [190.95.19.95]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Wed, 12 May 2021 18:19:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by perhan.alvh.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 438432A0A6E; Wed, 12 May 2021 18:19:28 -0400 (-04) Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 18:19:28 -0400 From: Alvaro Herrera To: Bruce Momjian Cc: Ian Lawrence Barwick , PostgreSQL-development Subject: Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Message-ID: <20210512221928.GA7368@alvherre.pgsql> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20210511024908.GP6088@momjian.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On 2021-May-10, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I reworeded it to: > > > > > > Limit the ways password_encryption can enable md5 hashing (Peter Eisentraut) > > > > Previously on/true/yes/1 values enabled md5. Now, only the string md5 does this. > > > > I also have this entry: > > > > > > Change password_encryption's default to scram-sha-256 (Peter Eisentraut) > > > > Previously it was md5. > > > > I am hesitant to merge them since they are different changes. Different? The commit IDs look pretty similar to me, not to say exactly identical. Reading these, it's pretty unclear what password_encryption *is* in the first place. The item should say "the password_encryption server parameter" -- that's what we have in the pg10 note for precursor commit eb61136dc. I would suggest Change the default of the password_encryption server parameter to scram-sha-256. Also, the legacy (and undocumented) boolean-like values which were previously synonyms of md5 are no longer accepted. -- Álvaro Herrera Valdivia, Chile "The Gord often wonders why people threaten never to come back after they've been told never to return" (www.actsofgord.com)