Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nBn4r-0003Hp-Qk for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 00:19:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nBn4q-0007r4-GU for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 00:19:20 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nBn4q-0007qv-77 for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 00:19:20 +0000 Received: from mail-qv1-xf32.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::f32]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nBn4o-0001yV-12 for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2022 00:19:19 +0000 Received: by mail-qv1-xf32.google.com with SMTP id o9so14700774qvy.13 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2022 16:19:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=leadboat.com; s=google; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=YBZ2d9/NWXuq6rDTdfmtE4D9shAfn8ptU4iFlMriGuE=; b=UNiX5n+JInybPkzy6upKHsulmRZ3w5cDAzk+xnSwp1UgfT4OHzhS6gq7tfk17G+Dld D7IhIT1qGCIMdUivhmB+VE4qg3gWATz4IRjRSPog0oQQaZnbjzFKfvLJ75ckGw3oFqy/ HgehZmQw+tZ3Z5EvL3IwHU7mpCDnVch6A1/OA= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=YBZ2d9/NWXuq6rDTdfmtE4D9shAfn8ptU4iFlMriGuE=; b=WqFEpEXcwjVD80kt2qJ2gmgh7ePURsYgt1atemklV1m86hDDXhwgwQO6xurhdlN+v5 /qjlznRNupnjPf+ezFC5o9WQVuQ6BcMrsjv5SjomZpC0AG5L6lc6ny3BI3/mTOBr8aYC EjABRHtf47X+n2NoTHqZKTd0SPYAo16pQGKN2lMIIqi0qN+g7aePxWjWe5+ufJ50M6g9 JyPOxSd6WdUr3y2cssBRmn80ZSgtY8/WBQ76la4bqX/TaBqJ0dEQGB14e4AofOcWZQeN Oml4IvQLqO9L8es3ADRcKtfiD6UGL9c2EPFvUydjpodHK/0PH88Ey//kaNNbekPMVOJ0 nCNQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532HiUQ/Fwc2PY3qOg7wMei4bvsEPoPUctyP/gBTp8G36Q2uaDTf bGllfc/F2ZfMKI0dmPIKt6ewBg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz+l7Dw/cyJDnwhDxitv8QpHlDR38ribsT2BtgL3h/G++zmOUw7Zrjub1wNBGOFzDp2paTc1w== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6214:2626:: with SMTP id gv6mr12521290qvb.31.1642983557216; Sun, 23 Jan 2022 16:19:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfd.leadboat.com ([2600:1702:a20:5750::2e]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h17sm6413570qtk.19.2022.01.23.16.19.15 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 23 Jan 2022 16:19:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 16:19:14 -0800 From: Noah Misch To: Thomas Munro Cc: pgbf@twiska.com, Tom Lane , Michael Paquier , pgsql-hackers Subject: Re: XLogReadRecord() error in XlogReadTwoPhaseData() Message-ID: <20220124001914.GB1131882@rfd.leadboat.com> References: <2782601.1637189230@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20211118070506.GA1294133@rfd.leadboat.com> <20211120051823.GA1367142@rfd.leadboat.com> <20220116071210.GA735692@rfd.leadboat.com> <20220116210241.GC756210@rfd.leadboat.com> <20220122185241.GA1095169@rfd.leadboat.com> <20220123232927.GA1131882@rfd.leadboat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 12:49:16PM +1300, Thomas Munro wrote: > On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 12:29 PM Noah Misch wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 09:42:13AM +1300, Thomas Munro wrote: > > > I'm less > > > sure it makes sense to do anything to support the presumed bogus > > > zeroes bug for (probably) no real users, especially before we've even > > > reported it and heard some analysis, for example acceptance that it's > > > broken and confirmation that this really is just a sparc problem. > > > > Got it. I've already done a bad thing leaving the buildfarm broken for three > > months, so I don't want to let the buildfarm wait for a kernel fix. These are > > the two main options I'm seeing now: > > > > (a) Modify the tests so the affected animals can skip affected tests by > > setting an environment variable, named PG_TEST_HAS_WAL_READ_BUG or similar. > > > > (b) Remove --enable-tap-tests from affected animals. > > > > Do you have a preference among those two or some other option that gets the > > buildfarm green on a predictable schedule? I somewhat prefer (a), since > > --enable-tap-tests is where most of the interesting buildfarm reports happen > > these days. > > Trying out a new idea: what if we could tell the buildfarm website > that a certain test is currently expected to fail for reasons we can't > fix yet (configuration change needed but owner not responding, or > bugfix from another project needed, etc)? That could cause it to be > displayed in a different shade of green, or grey, or whatever? Other > kinds of failures would still show as red. Perhaps this would be > configured with a file in a git repo that any committer can push to. That would be a better capability to use if we had it, agreed. Is it feasible to acquire that capability soon enough?