Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nP7xO-0007zG-7W for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2022 19:14:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nP7xM-000702-Vr for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2022 19:14:44 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nP7xM-0006zs-M8 for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2022 19:14:44 +0000 Received: from tamriel.snowman.net ([70.109.60.50]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nP7xK-0008KX-Dt for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2022 19:14:43 +0000 Received: by tamriel.snowman.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0FE9F5F7A2; Tue, 1 Mar 2022 14:14:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2022 14:14:41 -0500 From: Stephen Frost To: Chapman Flack Cc: David Steele , Nathan Bossart , pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org Subject: Re: Postgres restart in the middle of exclusive backup and the presence of backup_label file Message-ID: <20220301191441.GW10577@tamriel.snowman.net> References: <20220221172306.GA3698472@nathanxps13> <164589413251.1035.2695761148079719188.pgcf@coridan.postgresql.org> <20220226220614.GA673898@nathanxps13> <20220301055100.GA1002387@nathanxps13> <621E4529.1090601@anastigmatix.net> <20220301173208.GB1031413@nathanxps13> <1f685b3a-7ec2-825e-bb2b-d87d78ad5bd9@pgmasters.net> <621E6C2E.2050801@anastigmatix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GSafuNNN4NHc9BES" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <621E6C2E.2050801@anastigmatix.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk --GSafuNNN4NHc9BES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings, * Chapman Flack (chap@anastigmatix.net) wrote: > On 03/01/22 13:22, David Steele wrote: > > I think people are going to complain no matter what. If scripts are bei= ng > > maintained changing the name is not a big deal (though moving from excl= usive > > to non-exclusive may be). If they aren't being maintained then they'll = just > > blow up a few versions down the road when we remove the compatibility > > functions. >=20 > I might have already said enough in the message that crossed with this, > but I think what I'm saying is there's a less-binary distinction between > scripts that are/aren't "being maintained". >=20 > There can't really be many teams out there thinking "we'll just ignore > these scripts forever, and nothing bad will happen." They all know they'll > have to do stuff sometimes. But it matters how we allow them to schedule = it. We only make these changes between major versions. That's as much as we should be required to provide. Further, we seriously changed around how restores work a few versions back and there was rather little complaining. Thanks, Stephen --GSafuNNN4NHc9BES Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJiHnChAAoJEO1sijiDR2RV8lsP/2fDjdAG3IUbxl1qD4eFHeGx 7gij/UFhRFRN7N8Rhvo4s3orErpcqgXNCVUuiaxFIJKawcAc19NJ0n3ZuhY9N20o RFbKpPkj4ar5W2LI2VW1/Vh5WLTYW0aZmspxe/7b0eqdFMxsxwahaT7kENHG5e/V UgVAqcVaZVmNob4wANmE8MkJJFyU6rHUKDxoSFujDZK1BTlWfl+yaueOpIJ5M9h1 lYHXIPUk5wbXb2iYWlp+mMnBkxnbxXmu91udYxHkubE368zu0r5r7yfyRqXVaMuA 83+Y26b5N8q2vfGXULgiQgn2KiYJxe/0L0ee+U4QyMwACeMiRduOJNEp8gWc4AVU h5QurnjCkYaL7Hy5obmNpWjWlCDkmWFVFbV7VZccRkrpfiJ1i8SyxsV4Hy+48p6C q98eFMxA2VOHJy0G1GZJlL8clnWZnbkT3JeXIuNrRFzvOuW8qQKdeXKnOH/C2KjI Kr2Txv+aFHBvajx7aRKX5DYZ7NDpDrLACEs8lVXkLhCeQm7izyEGAvKiISsY7pm3 VfdKlsnBzmVb9x7/2n7wtQ8wxLlDvBE+eRW9FjYo1ko4qbH+3Zdrh/lYxIcG7nJ2 kAgoyvxtM3tG/SPsPxslGeDSorv9AQ8rt+ovBgpQoKSKI/CjgsYtyo0xhzMWG837 7t6Z3rDGTfKMKgwJs4Em =4uFz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GSafuNNN4NHc9BES--