Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nVe7g-0006gO-5X for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2022 18:48:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nVe7f-0002EE-2M for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2022 18:48:19 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nVe7e-0002Dz-Pm for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2022 18:48:18 +0000 Received: from wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com ([64.147.123.19]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nVe7c-0002dZ-EM for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2022 18:48:18 +0000 Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB9C3200C14; Sat, 19 Mar 2022 14:48:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 19 Mar 2022 14:48:13 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=anarazel.de; h= cc:cc:content-type:date:date:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:sender:subject :subject:to:to; s=fm1; bh=mx0QmmU1lcU/4DYYBhfBV4joaIdhTkZUlNct8u rx8wE=; b=GXMeziFHW3DdARNl5UldT2PTq1wI/PDMOdtx4NEJljb44+/gWutd3q 1Lcwg26i0YR4FJNJZJkwzn6UM+egiUJd7n6W3OHadibQc0q8D1JpgQmQaikQU8Z0 tPOwrjYpef1nn9l+UCzLU7wfD+GGu6g92B+exp6/8vheSinWoogXK64IqrRfZ6FN 1WNOuGKgzYi06hTIroLmrf2IJxSPNtXqsqtI6EZXzaotaLHET14GY/Suax6enVmn yKtteagix/UM420DXOaWokl/c29gMEDYsu/xKnRzVtWh/XqUfcopm0dmNLB6bkLo cG9VvRBNimbdKq8VBkGP4piLOb45UB6w== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:date:date:from:from :in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy :x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=mx0QmmU1lcU/4DYYB hfBV4joaIdhTkZUlNct8urx8wE=; b=bnzobsTx77YQI3AGIMPJEf9aFROFeiQy0 u2qvZPbMLgjc0KgTJR/aKCKItRAz6PetDf0KCpcrk6RXxR9TYSVuuF8fgqq5N2sa BKBGXNnaHjn3/T1jvRp5BYSE95huUGor+xfXU39zwNTEJkZg+abG5Qcd7k5NWbX5 Zq9zPJ6I8kWn/KxOr8ncpfpkFst19Kyk+MnHCSkdae9cQgiXOouiszpQOA/RsgqL HTgQNzu1jECx7kuhKpcSix1SorpTgFD1lESXhzseLPJv1uPsqQqjK+GgR8XV+ARu eZNqBgvPH5P5Lk1DTGzegzf18NaJGh8LMG6Jl9GJ4wxhQ5QIJ5VsQ== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvvddrudefkedguddujecutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfgh necuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmd enucfjughrpeffhffvuffkfhggtggujgesthdtredttddtvdenucfhrhhomheptehnughr vghsucfhrhgvuhhnugcuoegrnhgurhgvshesrghnrghrrgiivghlrdguvgeqnecuggftrf grthhtvghrnhepudekhfekleeugeevteehleffffejgeelueduleeffeeutdelffeujeff hfeuffdunecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomh eprghnughrvghssegrnhgrrhgriigvlhdruggv X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Sat, 19 Mar 2022 14:48:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2022 11:48:11 -0700 From: Andres Freund To: Dave Page Cc: Pavel Borisov , Postgres hackers Subject: Re: Problem with moderation of messages with patched attached. Message-ID: <20220319184811.yblhyw6b6dswnx5o@alap3.anarazel.de> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk Hi, On 2022-03-03 13:37:35 +0000, Dave Page wrote: > On Thu, 3 Mar 2022 at 13:28, Pavel Borisov wrote: > > > The mail system doesn't have the capability to apply different moderation > >> rules for people in that way I'm afraid. > >> > > Maybe then 2MB for everyone? Otherwise it's not so convenient. Lead to > > answers before the questions in the thread [1], seems weird. > > > > Then someone will complain if their patch is 2.1MB! How often are messages > legitimately over 1MB anyway, even with a patch? I don't usually moderate > -hackers, so I don't know if this is a common thing or not. I don't think it's actually that rare. But most contributors writing that large patchsets know about the limit and work around it - I gzip patches when I see the email getting too large. But it's more annoying to work with for reviewers. It's somewhat annoying. If you e.g. append a few graphs of performance changes and a patch it's pretty easy to get into the range where compressing won't help anymore. And sure, any limit may be hit by somebody. But 1MB across the whole email seems pretty low these days. Greetings, Andres Freund