Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nf1b5-0006kg-D7 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2022 15:41:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nf1b3-0008QQ-Ki for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2022 15:41:25 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nf1b1-0008QH-Ll for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2022 15:41:25 +0000 Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.27]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nf1ax-0005AP-Pu for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2022 15:41:23 +0000 Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 288575C022A; Thu, 14 Apr 2022 11:41:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 14 Apr 2022 11:41:16 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=anarazel.de; h= cc:cc:content-type:date:date:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:sender:subject :subject:to:to; s=fm1; t=1649950876; x=1650037276; bh=d6eef3nN6o /S8wnn18R0iVkSd2Espx3DjSznwaHqUkk=; b=zvPKpaSvjHIogztWEOVNIVz7xc mpUcX/HNDko/Rx3A114Jg+R0ihqikX8OYPqfAdXjTcXVjK+e/nDLw1dq123fnQOi +arUU8Z5FkWY07Xj9lbVe4CqSPTmyPcdU06WGnH2/7uWinp5IgwvlgS1tVoEOeMU KjyTgw6EbGqR4w5+nfyb3oC0cSpMRIElkRzp3vl4F9RXpXG/Fr9hwvOJsmQSuH6O SrMDU+rQ52ZADBkPhMJmYv6yGdnpAdmdEFwJ4EOWpky+Daly90K714usiBxw31iT 2m6hHlhf7cyql4mX40m2D2Ozkceq0iNqE8YGA4pyoPKgLhffc9SuIlbEwaSQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:date:date:from:from :in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy :x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; t=1649950876; x= 1650037276; bh=d6eef3nN6o/S8wnn18R0iVkSd2Espx3DjSznwaHqUkk=; b=r RS+rBhsbT0scAbqQtIxNlPQiGQEOeAM5StWS011GkOxwoKDJu+gLJl9dOaAHj1Za wj9Cu6VaEgj7vJNcc1zD4lMrB3gLogsUBjTeFWAAczm744sYCvBKLNalvG8Dqtd5 x4ILWi1I21t7Y64XoFVpGc4RGv+UOxQk/7ft8AxRmslri5VkniW81KJdiKE2a42v TY8Z1LdCkNIKHzSNB7DCGUzIZL0pnpLbr+OkQsjcIvvumTaNWfDinV6QMKYidPWu g6mniiNKjQVDE9ADjKAhJEgWACbJYmhRkuoRe7VGE9vj26BbLRSkTe9MnCqQCNfk 7jiwmK7hy5baFkMV3VHNw== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvvddrudelfedgleefucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepfffhvffukfhfgggtuggjsehttdertddttddvnecuhfhrohhmpeetnhgurhgv shcuhfhrvghunhguuceorghnughrvghssegrnhgrrhgriigvlhdruggvqeenucggtffrrg htthgvrhhnpedukefhkeelueegveetheelffffjeegleeuudelfeefuedtleffueejfffh ueffudenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpe grnhgurhgvshesrghnrghrrgiivghlrdguvg X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Thu, 14 Apr 2022 11:41:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 08:41:13 -0700 From: Andres Freund To: Robert Haas Cc: Tom Lane , Justin Pryzby , Kyotaro Horiguchi , Erik Rijkers , Matthias van de Meent , PostgreSQL Hackers Subject: Re: TRAP: FailedAssertion("HaveRegisteredOrActiveSnapshot()", File: "toast_internals.c", Line: 670, PID: 19403) Message-ID: <20220414154113.37f5khnjcc6odtgz@alap3.anarazel.de> References: <20220330.100617.1491348930290941094.horikyota.ntt@gmail.com> <20220330.114613.1177577626285014184.horikyota.ntt@gmail.com> <20220330.175824.936439875658680065.horikyota.ntt@gmail.com> <20220413202819.GR26620@telsasoft.com> <20220414003802.e37dgzkgbi5t7ha4@alap3.anarazel.de> <1471620.1649947373@sss.pgh.pa.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk Hi, On 2022-04-14 11:33:45 -0400, Robert Haas wrote: > On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 10:42 AM Tom Lane wrote: > > Robert Haas writes: > > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 8:38 PM Andres Freund wrote: > > >> FWIW, that'd just mean it's an old bug that wasn't easily noticeable > > >> before, not that it's the fault of 277692220. > > > > > I think you're still on the hook to do something about it for this > > > release. > > > > I think you're trying to shoot the messenger. As Andres says, > > 277692220 just exposes that there is some pre-existing bug here. > > It's probably related to 84f5c2908, so I was planning to take a > > look at it at some point, but there are a few other higher-priority > > bugs in the way. > > Well, if you're willing to look at it that's fine, but I just don't > agree that it's OK to just commit things that add failing assertions > and drive off into the sunset. I'm not planning to ride into the sunset / ignore this issue. All I said is that it's imo not the right thing to say that that commit broke things in 15. And that not a semantics game, because it means that the fix needs to go back further than 277692220. Greetings, Andres Freund