Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pEKvA-0002Go-8G for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2023 01:56:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pEKv6-0006pv-3R for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2023 01:56:20 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pEKv5-0006pe-Qs for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2023 01:56:19 +0000 Received: from janus.karlpinc.com ([173.161.46.12] helo=smtp.karlpinc.com) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pEKv1-0007gw-Nl for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2023 01:56:19 +0000 Received: from slate.karlpinc.com (unknown [192.168.1.14]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.karlpinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20B5DA030; Sat, 7 Jan 2023 19:56:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from slate.karlpinc.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by slate.karlpinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D399B3FB49; Sat, 7 Jan 2023 19:56:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2023 19:56:08 -0600 From: "Karl O. Pinc" To: Tom Lane Cc: Peter Eisentraut , Daniel Gustafsson , Robert Haas , Andres Freund , Devrim =?UTF-8?B?R8O8bmTDvHo=?= , Joe Conway , PostgreSQL Hackers Subject: Re: drop postmaster symlink Message-ID: <20230107195608.3f770868@slate.karlpinc.com> In-Reply-To: <3492787.1673134705@sss.pgh.pa.us> References: <252b8b14-dc3e-1c70-3da5-e59c1616f2ad@joeconway.com> <6b11c9efcd3a1d89719370224d84f8cd5e7b1a8c.camel@gunduz.org> <3705500.1669216069@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20221123195010.huuypoilx6lw7ceg@awork3.anarazel.de> <20230107165942.748ccf4e@slate.karlpinc.com> <3492787.1673134705@sss.pgh.pa.us> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.8 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On Sat, 07 Jan 2023 18:38:25 -0500 Tom Lane wrote: > "Karl O. Pinc" writes: > > This is a review of Peter's 2 patches. I see only 1 small problem. > > > > > Looking at the documentation, a "postmaster" in the glossary is > > defined as the controlling process. This works; it needs to be > > called something. There is still a postmaster.pid (etc.) in the > > data directory. > > > The word "postmaster" (case insensitive) shows up 84 times in the > > documentation. I looked at all of these. > > Hmm ... I thought this patch was about getting rid of the > admittedly-obsolete installed symlink. If it's trying to get rid of > the "postmaster" terminology for our parent process, I'm very strongly > against that, either as regards to code or documentation. No. It's about getting rid of the symlink. I was grepping around to look for use of the symlink, started with the glossary just to be sure, and saw that "postmaster" is consistently (I think) used to refer to the controlling, parent, process. And wrote down what I was doing and what I found as I went along. And then sent out my notes. Sorry for the confusion. Regards, Karl Free Software: "You don't pay back, you pay forward." -- Robert A. Heinlein