Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pP762-0002Ui-Ta for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2023 19:24:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pP761-0001W9-EO for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2023 19:24:09 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pP761-0001W0-57 for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2023 19:24:09 +0000 Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pP75z-0004hH-4W for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2023 19:24:08 +0000 Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 248CD5C00DC; Mon, 6 Feb 2023 14:24:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 06 Feb 2023 14:24:04 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=anarazel.de; h= cc:cc:content-type:date:date:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:sender:subject :subject:to:to; s=fm3; t=1675711444; x=1675797844; bh=kCbigT/fcG CQlHhl43NPVYmY3agEJyHAAMK9oBViU54=; b=BZM8tLUhiZG2iATds3ELDQITMY 810Sm5pNtIL3LFuhzqVkbl9Tg5QoIr2naonfAQAtWoUX2gJvIX6KgSHmqwgjWYCM A6FlVKfiMfgh85B99rTzUCPWM3eSoxu174dTxnzuV7/LAMG+d5gVdYZnIAllTb7U u+IDPZyJ0DE/lBrpejfTvUpIW2mpBgEnRconqQynMRR5PHMwXYrkgmv3Wd9NjXZi QV0QS2m5XVzP8fxRkxYBNayXfSotme6nNbnEC1SIeAOb4rHUwS5XBppTDSmjpKTl cymulBDV2cN7IXFeYng7VUkncf9cILEZrM3vNtzvrBPxXCpeMeUUdsq3SKKQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:date:date:feedback-id :feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:references:reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to :x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= fm3; t=1675711444; x=1675797844; bh=kCbigT/fcGCQlHhl43NPVYmY3agE JyHAAMK9oBViU54=; b=PMJIH8y8rhpmVFd+9TWiDO2Atcd0QgIzVAdxNYFLeQJD O6X5+zudd+siTdVKj1cv97uKYBNn4cOvAKAqKk0wLPe9fTC3o5BCmOz8BUM8jVUk gkpOLl0uet405byfIXlbIPC0Gn87c1jToKm+Pp5sv1zZ8yhTRpFPcA7LuMt99P4m jzAOviUuNuQy2vUvxY81GgXUW3pumaM6vis+RF2Haa4tzpK0EtTnxDzfSWzKCmg9 r0rMsdbxdPS1XcMbluZ0SdWsxxztXfqe5gXoarmCNvZNAYwhRpe+kFFWXMaJj/nj QqXSnP7+GbHgFVHal71gUu2LJ9goO/8lHfG0gpMIAA== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvhedrudegiedguddvudcutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfgh necuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmd enucfjughrpeffhffvvefukfhfgggtuggjsehttdertddttddvnecuhfhrohhmpeetnhgu rhgvshcuhfhrvghunhguuceorghnughrvghssegrnhgrrhgriigvlhdruggvqeenucggtf frrghtthgvrhhnpedvffefvefhteevffegieetfefhtddvffejvefhueetgeeludehteev udeitedtudenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhroh hmpegrnhgurhgvshesrghnrghrrgiivghlrdguvg X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: id4a34324:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Mon, 6 Feb 2023 14:24:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2023 11:24:01 -0800 From: Andres Freund To: Nikita Malakhov Cc: Alvaro Herrera , vignesh C , Aleksander Alekseev , pgsql-hackers , Jacob Champion , Matthias van de Meent , Robert Haas , Greg Stark , Teodor Sigaev Subject: Re: Pluggable toaster Message-ID: <20230206192401.c5zew5xp4p4e5o24@awork3.anarazel.de> References: <20230206104917.sipa7nzue5lw2e6z@alvherre.pgsql> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk Hi, On 2023-02-06 16:38:01 +0300, Nikita Malakhov wrote: > So we decided to reduce changes in the core to the minimum necessary > to make it available through the hooks, because the hooks part is very > lightweight and simple to keep rebasing onto the vanilla core. At least I don't think we should accept such hooks. I don't think I am alone in that. Greetings, Andres Freund