Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pdSx3-0004ga-Fp for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 09:34:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pdSx0-0007fD-Rj for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 09:34:10 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pdSwz-0007f3-Q3 for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 09:34:10 +0000 Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.26]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pdSws-0000Dq-Fs for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 09:34:08 +0000 Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1BC35C00D2; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 05:34:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 18 Mar 2023 05:34:00 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:content-type:date:date:feedback-id:feedback-id :from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy :x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; t=1679132040; x= 1679218440; bh=3892psWnfaZ5ZaCrUjj+DFcfrq4W4xKCzPLy4MP6+5A=; b=X 3S99FiIIrHzAdT9CsWQBEFeNDIboFuD85Omm9oy506rvG7jg0qgLpcXe9ihpmvHB 4AkLvJCWLKARueTRhVgzEFTUBtoy+lUWigTvmTORVxvsEZ27Pi67nSHoqx8QS4+/ z1L52tsWtPkPGVmfMUbJELZCMWyKUuvxY7Hwusjc4VLnPubwXUYsn7rxYrZcrJXZ yCgETANzQ/X1ObmocWNM6m5RHCm85JOmn33Wld99GSkckbGj9kpEFteidlvv6fhu 3pbwhvTU6eTDFkgQUEgP8TkSGsJc9AT97S0KFM3eUcRnyuzQdJyl79B25sUao5xf hhrz6i/Fan/wTJkNyt5dg== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvhedrvdefgedgtdefucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepfffhvfevuffkgggtugfgjgesthekredttddtjeenucfhrhhomheptehlvhgr rhhoucfjvghrrhgvrhgruceorghlvhhhvghrrhgvsegrlhhvhhdrnhhoqdhiphdrohhrgh eqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepvdektdffudfftdffffehfffhjeejhffgieeuueekjeek fffgudffhfduffffueevnecuffhomhgrihhnpegvnhhtvghrphhrihhsvggusgdrtghomh enucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpegrlhhv hhgvrhhrvgesrghlvhhhrdhnohdqihhprdhorhhg X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: ia2694551:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 05:34:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by perhan.alvh.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 84A7897; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 10:33:57 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2023 10:33:57 +0100 From: Alvaro Herrera To: Andres Freund Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? Message-ID: <20230318093357.g4e3eexqg6dxmuel@alvherre.pgsql> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20230317230930.nhsgk3qfk7f4axls@awork3.anarazel.de> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On 2023-Mar-17, Andres Freund wrote: > I started writing a test for vacuum_defer_cleanup_age while working on the fix > referenced above, but now I am wondering if said energy would be better spent > removing vacuum_defer_cleanup_age alltogether. +1 I agree it's not useful anymore. > I don't think I have the cycles to push this through in the next weeks, but if > we agree removing vacuum_defer_cleanup_age is a good idea, it seems like a > good idea to mark it as deprecated in 16? Hmm, for the time being, can we just "disable" it by disallowing to set the GUC to a value different from 0? Then we can remove the code later in the cycle at leisure. -- Álvaro Herrera Breisgau, Deutschland — https://www.EnterpriseDB.com/ "La gente vulgar sólo piensa en pasar el tiempo; el que tiene talento, en aprovecharlo"