Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pktjD-0006Bk-UD for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2023 21:34:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pktiE-0006ev-S3 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2023 21:33:38 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pktiE-0006em-Ic for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2023 21:33:38 +0000 Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pktiC-0000w5-5b for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2023 21:33:37 +0000 Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CDA35C0064; Fri, 7 Apr 2023 17:33:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 07 Apr 2023 17:33:35 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:content-type:date:date:feedback-id:feedback-id :from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy :x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; t=1680903215; x= 1680989615; bh=GZMInthyEqnQMrE3z9Vo2qZ7VXaiOF2KWcr3cVoxc50=; b=D ZfuHE72EZjz9JRKFBsDHtMdu0dsDk4I9PZAyovR0I2ufzoA9h7HDXALbZWjnwM6V Rw5m/ay0/DKxzrBfGOhkRU5J3/H1NX2z0jItXX5TVCuoxQp6L1TPoUgeZkys3M5+ z9reQ31a6/Fl1g1uQpK+UT7IVnW9sTzNA2zFSKE/xbA9/shUdbUiAXAJw8zEzweS 6YHgR7fgoESYUsvYkVWedhRVWe60ebrWe2mrII9Dmuhg2MIJ3/Y2hJQSb4iBSXDZ KzB3VrMFJEgPHeVQRvNNGQWAzbO26sg4HklkiRsqXKE2lyJ337CFOXLl/R8Mmo68 YOm8jp7bRDw0Afy7oUI/Q== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvhedrvdejhedgudeigecutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfgh necuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmd enucfjughrpeffhffvvefukfggtggugfgjsehtkeertddttdejnecuhfhrohhmpeetlhhv rghrohcujfgvrhhrvghrrgcuoegrlhhvhhgvrhhrvgesrghlvhhhrdhnohdqihhprdhorh hgqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpedvkedtffduffdtffffheffhfejjefhgfeiueeukeej keffgfdufffhudffffeuveenucffohhmrghinhepvghnthgvrhhprhhishgvuggsrdgtoh hmnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomheprghl vhhhvghrrhgvsegrlhhvhhdrnhhoqdhiphdrohhrgh X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: ia2694551:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Fri, 7 Apr 2023 17:33:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by perhan.alvh.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2EFACDB6; Fri, 7 Apr 2023 23:33:32 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2023 23:33:32 +0200 From: Alvaro Herrera To: Andres Freund Cc: "Drouvot, Bertrand" , Amit Kapila , Jeff Davis , Robert Haas , Thomas Munro , Ibrar Ahmed , Amit Khandekar , fabriziomello@gmail.com, tushar , Rahila Syed , pgsql-hackers Subject: Re: Minimal logical decoding on standbys Message-ID: <20230407213332.l2upiiqtigmnqvf2@alvherre.pgsql> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20230407181226.6oyt4jcazy6eh7rx@awork3.anarazel.de> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk I gave a very quick look at 0001 and 0003. I find no fault with 0001. It was clear back when we added that stuff that invalidated_at was not terribly useful -- I was just too conservative to not have it -- but now that a lot of time has passed and we haven't done anything with it, removing it seems perfectly OK. As for 0003, I have no further concerns about the translatability. -- Álvaro Herrera PostgreSQL Developer — https://www.EnterpriseDB.com/ "El miedo atento y previsor es la madre de la seguridad" (E. Burke)