Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1plzzK-0006Cu-VL for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 22:27:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1plzzJ-0002FR-Jn for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 22:27:49 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1plzzH-0002DJ-Oo for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 22:27:49 +0000 Received: from wout1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([64.147.123.24]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1plzzE-0004Tr-E8; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 22:27:46 +0000 Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id A090C320090E; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 18:27:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 10 Apr 2023 18:27:42 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=anarazel.de; h= cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type:date :date:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm2; t= 1681165661; x=1681252061; bh=40qlQM4mSFdehWDA+yVhXYJpkAS+nq2wGlm ehgxB9nc=; b=BW6xYG/rsmsc6c1zz+UbOX6ZfPeBy3UfSuPc/u3/+u+iS5EGliQ ehq0STmD10SDgjINoxXKhkwztIKO0dkp3vFReD+gNmuXwz2fqj4JPTisUX6PFTu/ ES9Bc1elp9FkH1jGAvKQMtGYCI/HV3Kgtcw+fTHG1E+I5bTwbuvKB4SOFeIi5DuO W7mOn22889DYWHPaLpK0cSlr8+ddTpyrX35mi3/qlGEOkSVY4dKmWgrjFHBmK8v6 xqxpA+/CW3ybB9YVXCtqZjkBnx+BApKBAoIMIsrwUqHY93LdQU5ZV7OdDb9KYXTi TClqdTJ9XIOVtf13FYGIRTaAr8NxXuH3rTA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:content-type:date:date:feedback-id:feedback-id :from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; t= 1681165661; x=1681252061; bh=40qlQM4mSFdehWDA+yVhXYJpkAS+nq2wGlm ehgxB9nc=; b=pxSg2RqwMFTGLTM3okX6H3aj47/PrZv6w6MQlA9UFs81U9q1bso KjD/F92knSsazAJtrntIMQB5j7LU4QRSRs/oRj90kZx5HYS5M06J/02u/3m3ahLD hetfdkoH5wiNXBEV7oRibEVAlujYFmW3rN6O8g0HCMMfLoi/RdZWbFNhAT+WoRvR 62Erv+8lwUj7HmpF5PZsOBmZeKql4vwEeIRR3T77Pq81DkBHR4V2nz1mt9BgIEy5 KHAg2ZYF7jJtPxpJKoAgsWMCn6rnaR8k5t8/CNIuq2NynVwulp5iyvF3cn6tPY9e ErgmC3eAbj8b66DphFhoTrrv4gOW+aV4dmw== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvhedrvdekfedgudduucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepfffhvfevuffkfhggtggugfgjsehtkeertddttdejnecuhfhrohhmpeetnhgu rhgvshcuhfhrvghunhguuceorghnughrvghssegrnhgrrhgriigvlhdruggvqeenucggtf frrghtthgvrhhnpefhieetgfelveettdffjeevudejkeejudfgtdevffejledvtdefkeeg gfejhffggeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhroh hmpegrnhgurhgvshesrghnrghrrgiivghlrdguvg X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: id4a34324:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 18:27:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2023 15:27:38 -0700 From: Andres Freund To: Dave Page Cc: Robert Haas , Alvaro Herrera , Amit Kapila , Andrew Dunstan , "Jonathan S. Katz" , Peter Geoghegan , Tom Lane , pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: When to drop src/tools/msvc support Message-ID: <20230410222738.57fdxwdrdhwatnr4@awork3.anarazel.de> References: <20230408191007.7lysd42euafwl74f@awork3.anarazel.de> <3611416.1680982220@sss.pgh.pa.us> <4179373.1681145767@sss.pgh.pa.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk Hi, On 2023-04-10 19:55:35 +0100, Dave Page wrote: > Projects other than the EDB installers use the MSVC build system - e.g. > pgAdmin uses it’s own builds of libpq and other tools (psql, pg_dump etc) > that are pretty heavily baked into a fully automated build system (even the > build servers and all their requirements are baked into Ansible). > > Changing that lot would be non-trivial, though certainly possible, and I > suspect we’re not the only ones doing that sort of thing. Do you have a link to the code for that, if it's open? Just to get an impression for how hard it'd be to switch over? Greetings, Andres Freund