Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qtyad-00FL1x-9X for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2023 23:07:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qtyaa-009AcK-UO for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2023 23:07:33 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qtyaa-009Abk-Kw for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2023 23:07:33 +0000 Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qtyaY-001VA6-Ky for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2023 23:07:32 +0000 Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id E19675C0884; Fri, 20 Oct 2023 19:07:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 20 Oct 2023 19:07:29 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=anarazel.de; h= cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type:date :date:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm3; t= 1697843249; x=1697929649; bh=ZKGGdJpPgTXMU4Va5BC9DOkWgSd2ioApcbZ jJFvIzuM=; b=kUKSIrYjpyqRe0TAtwERSkpmObj6vWiLXkb8FWgg4w0ixJ7LMfb 4/6BOgTS/BTVjFn+UOq2rHZxdszDgcttY01PIv+eLHtJIbk/fO9tQckS2Dib8wbt z4e5g8bhsYTM/B0Y/2blEDRCeQRAJTBYbltQBpVpLMFZVgtZ39MZRby1Uxn/fIiR MZ2fKl3HmPiJZboia/fGWpeyO/bZu8na+2Ef+1hDGzf/HIpKMQS3CPhFVsBWNemT HiWFPOP3uOkmkwm3iL4ZNG0vTq9VAIMS1vSnomYzjlWa2jK4eFOxz841uzPST1OK tuyY++YpvhMVS+/fCeYI5nFa8L0XkLo4bVg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:content-type:date:date:feedback-id:feedback-id :from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; t= 1697843249; x=1697929649; bh=ZKGGdJpPgTXMU4Va5BC9DOkWgSd2ioApcbZ jJFvIzuM=; b=XDrNJjrtfXKP2c3OoboayXb8QPEY4dVw/7ZJxVh5hnrLgJPeQXz FQv1WUE8a2og5nY4/EZhqDaff7XWpbIv0YsOjIjhYhF0loaxnqBcF9aBydLxGfuU oll05tXqz1k8Z8n+pcy+yXbHno86QIrbGQ3n6WzwwrHCFRHHf0fnCkM9eJ9s8Ok9 RcSSSQAU3TUgcnLh4HozXFHbdBa7rDbfaXvAyEN9UMvORKmQ2lz4uz5lOP1tYM/8 jEyroUsVIBrbIy2eeYYQxONFgidelwu0VNSPM6dXQ0BT8FfMEcK7TrLN72M7DL5+ 3FmpAqWuNYveLv7rH02yPfHmzWj7WsaScvw== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvkedrjeelgdduiecutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenuc fjughrpeffhffvvefukfhfgggtugfgjgesthekredttddtjeenucfhrhhomheptehnughr vghsucfhrhgvuhhnugcuoegrnhgurhgvshesrghnrghrrgiivghlrdguvgeqnecuggftrf grthhtvghrnhepvdfhgfdtheefueelueetgfeuudelkefffedviedufeejffekvdfgieev gfffheetnecuffhomhgrihhnpehgihhthhhusgdrtghomhdpphhoshhtghhrvghsqhhlrd horhhgnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhep rghnughrvghssegrnhgrrhgriigvlhdruggv X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: id4a34324:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Fri, 20 Oct 2023 19:07:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 16:07:28 -0700 From: Andres Freund To: Thomas Munro Cc: Ronan Dunklau , Devrim =?utf-8?B?R8O8bmTDvHo=?= , PostgreSQL Hackers , Fabien COELHO , Dmitry Dolgov <9erthalion6@gmail.com> Subject: Re: LLVM 16 (opaque pointers) Message-ID: <20231020230728.36tqzyhfeiioyx5a@awork3.anarazel.de> References: <5716086.DvuYhMxLoT@aivenlaptop> <2700884.mvXUDI8C0e@aivenlaptop> <20231020221213.zlgwsh7wtwyz33ag@awork3.anarazel.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk Hi, On 2023-10-21 12:02:51 +1300, Thomas Munro wrote: > On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 11:12 AM Andres Freund wrote: > > > I doubt I can get anywhere near an s390x though, and we definitely had > > > pre-existing problems on that arch. > > > > IMO an LLVM bug, rather than a postgres bug, but I guess it's all a matter of > > perspective. > > https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/issues/53009#issuecomment-1042748553 > > Ah, good to know about that. But there are also reports of crashes in > released versions that manage to get passed that ABI-wobble business: > > https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/flat/CAF1DzPXjpPxnsgySz2Zjm8d2dx7%3DJ070C%2BMQBFh%2B9NBNcBKCAg%40mail.gmail.com Trying to debug that now, using access to an s390x box provided by Mark... Greetings, Andres Freund