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From: Sutou Kouhei In-Reply-To: <20240218200906.zvihkrs46yl2juzf@awork3.anarazel.de> References: <20240218015955.rmw5mcmobt5hbene@awork3.anarazel.de> <20240218.173809.707692226756628288.kou@clear-code.com> <20240218200906.zvihkrs46yl2juzf@awork3.anarazel.de> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.8 on Emacs 29.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 1D8565F47E0 X-Rspamd-Server: mail.clear-code.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.90 / 999.00]; SUSPICIOUS_RECIPS(1.50)[]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2518, ipnet:2404:7a80::/29, country:JP]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[8]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVRCPT(0.00)[gmail.com]; URIBL_BLOCKED(0.00)[localhost:helo,anarazel.de:email,postgresql.org:url]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com,cybertec.at,sss.pgh.pa.us,jncsoftware.com,fetter.org,postgresql.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; SURBL_MULTI_FAIL(0.00)[postgresql.org:server fail,anarazel.de:server fail,localhost:server fail] X-Rspamd-Action: no action List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk Hi, In <20240218200906.zvihkrs46yl2juzf@awork3.anarazel.de> "Re: Why is pq_begintypsend so slow?" on Sun, 18 Feb 2024 12:09:06 -0800, Andres Freund wrote: >> [1] https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/flat/20240215.153421.96888103784986803.kou%40clear-code.com#34df359e6d255795d16814ce138cc995 >> Do we need one FunctionCallInfoBaseData for each attribute? >> How about sharing one FunctionCallInfoBaseData by all >> attributes like [1]? > > That makes no sense to me. You're throwing away most of the possible gains by > having to update the FunctionCallInfo fields on every call. You're saving > neglegible amounts of memory at a substantial runtime cost. The number of updated fields of your approach and [1] are same: Your approach: 6 (I think that "fcinfo->isnull = false" is needed though.) + fcinfo->args[0].value = CStringGetDatum(string); + fcinfo->args[0].isnull = false; + fcinfo->args[1].value = ObjectIdGetDatum(attr->typioparam); + fcinfo->args[1].isnull = false; + fcinfo->args[2].value = Int32GetDatum(attr->typmod); + fcinfo->args[2].isnull = false; [1]: 6 (including "fcinfo->isnull = false") + fcinfo->flinfo = flinfo; + fcinfo->context = escontext; + fcinfo->isnull = false; + fcinfo->args[0].value = CStringGetDatum(str); + fcinfo->args[1].value = ObjectIdGetDatum(typioparam); + fcinfo->args[2].value = Int32GetDatum(typmod); >> Inlining InputFuncallCallSafe() here to use pre-initialized >> fcinfo will decrease maintainability. Because we abstract >> InputFunctionCall family in fmgr.c. If we define a >> InputFunctionCall variant here, we need to change both of >> fmgr.c and here when InputFunctionCall family is changed. >> How about defining details in fmgr.c and call it here >> instead like [1]? > > I'm not sure I buy that that is a problem. It's not like my approach was > actually bypassing fmgr abstractions alltogether - instead it just used the > lower level APIs, because it's a performance sensitive area. [1] provides some optimized abstractions, which are implemented with lower level APIs, without breaking the abstractions. Note that I don't have a strong opinion how to implement this optimization. If other developers think this approach makes sense for this optimization, I don't object it. >> @@ -1966,7 +1992,7 @@ CopyReadBinaryAttribute(CopyFromState cstate, FmgrInfo *flinfo, >> if (fld_size == -1) >> { >> *isnull = true; >> - return ReceiveFunctionCall(flinfo, NULL, typioparam, typmod); >> + return ReceiveFunctionCall(fcinfo->flinfo, NULL, attr->typioparam, attr->typmod); >> >> Why pre-initialized fcinfo isn't used here? > > Because it's a prototype and because I don't think it's a common path. How about adding a comment why we don't need to optimize this case? I don't have a strong opinion how to implement this optimization as I said above. It seems that you like your approach. So I withdraw [1]. Could you complete this optimization? Can we proceed making COPY format extensible without this optimization? It seems that it'll take a little time to complete this optimization because your patch is still WIP. And it seems that you can work on it after making COPY format extensible. Thanks, -- kou