Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rjr5j-008M3K-Gz for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2024 01:38:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rjr5i-003wEu-1z for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2024 01:38:06 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rjr5h-003wEm-PN for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2024 01:38:06 +0000 Received: from mail-il1-x131.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::131]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rjr5a-0042bs-FN for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2024 01:38:05 +0000 Received: by mail-il1-x131.google.com with SMTP id e9e14a558f8ab-3663be565d5so9507545ab.0 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2024 18:37:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1710207478; x=1710812278; darn=postgresql.org; h=in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id :subject:cc:to:from:date:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=yxUFIq5mkuGQkmebP5VwNnZkDvk0E0/HrYtQ4to2g2g=; b=YOlLHnf+gUmGDsvjQeKoPMon4LK+3L2WpDZ/yQfBt1xoRr+WtdeJ7TJtafn6bm6Lrd 54kN25WWAdwSbZctEunSYmVoeqzqo8wiJQxrImBXSMjcm4awPQqqC6cXx+4tjt8HEKFA ySh467ttezopco5yB38cOi1mLG50boWKQF7zKCnCrNy8SISCauMZ6z2shWkJw942oLmG qwdYQbjK3dPdxkrgIT2yLI4lr0500pjthuLVK/2IQmx4HpiGQ4aHFFcWB0gxxht2zf4V n3aH54v6Bc/bJD7tiZwbhfpDdxK3ECOg7MGE2AFlQ6jIzoNvNkcAaRDg3BySKwqa/jsX MQFQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1710207478; x=1710812278; h=in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id :subject:cc:to:from:date:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=yxUFIq5mkuGQkmebP5VwNnZkDvk0E0/HrYtQ4to2g2g=; b=Mtl/l+MTppgJKS6LXWloCzbTB9hewL8GVugaw55Q7D8mZVX7TFNUAZBDXE5KVbRgWG jWYOLr4Icd9Ajv6j2tdlpkxSkkVGqKWOPgpfiWH57U327hwGFsQtxdZw2+tdtjIkvz0t 8BfOHPvM+eEkmrF5Hl7ydWSzQfaA4zFJHdhBGxLqmUkQme0WqHmg29Wm0ak3OJNSByui 4V3l7S+Q+vttPGgyDzTuUuQqYMZhgspjBsdWqSFOX106BMMT3pVfIdZfYfiNi1O0VU/3 0PrSb5uAQ1viPkCTlgClMuZ0IzLwHFzir9VonXbYatGPUi85mzNZuJxQudifRY+793k4 uKWA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwRF659E3zTKcWEwliGfP7CtHEMnt+lXTWW09O6Y+VGt/fhThVs Q1z3DN5mTru6EzIj4oWz9EdVblokuSuAxZvWN4HfFzTG/Hh14OeO X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IG/cr3/Q5IVGvAPslnxr3P3Ywj4uuaalRHd+isXxONo25hinZ4Njky1ElUCQWhCA8lGyCXJ7A== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6602:1b92:b0:7c8:c715:f2e7 with SMTP id dq18-20020a0566021b9200b007c8c715f2e7mr2095686iob.15.1710207478648; Mon, 11 Mar 2024 18:37:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nathanxps13 (162-195-168-172.lightspeed.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net. [162.195.168.172]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e7-20020a02a507000000b004747c3ffefcsm1977148jam.78.2024.03.11.18.37.58 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 11 Mar 2024 18:37:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 20:37:56 -0500 From: Nathan Bossart To: Bruce Momjian Cc: PostgreSQL-development Subject: Re: Reports on obsolete Postgres versions Message-ID: <20240312013756.GB1787866@nathanxps13> References: <20240311211204.GA1786481@nathanxps13> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 05:17:13PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 04:12:04PM -0500, Nathan Bossart wrote: >> I've read that the use of the term "minor release" can be confusing. While >> the versioning page clearly describes what is eligible for a minor release, >> not everyone reads it, so I suspect that many folks think there are new >> features, etc. in minor releases. I think a "minor release" of Postgres is >> more similar to what other projects would call a "patch version." > > Well, we do say: > > While upgrading will always contain some level of risk, PostgreSQL > minor releases fix only frequently-encountered bugs, security issues, > and data corruption problems to reduce the risk associated with > upgrading. For minor releases, the community considers not upgrading to > be riskier than upgrading. > > but that is far down the page. Do we need to improve this? I think making that note more visible would certainly be an improvement. -- Nathan Bossart Amazon Web Services: https://aws.amazon.com