Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1t9ZsE-00B3qn-BN for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 09 Nov 2024 01:02:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1t9ZsB-00Ex3Z-G3 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 09 Nov 2024 01:02:44 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1t9ZsA-00Ex3N-U1 for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Sat, 09 Nov 2024 01:02:43 +0000 Received: from mail-oi1-x22a.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::22a]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1t9Zs8-000tU7-Gg for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Sat, 09 Nov 2024 01:02:41 +0000 Received: by mail-oi1-x22a.google.com with SMTP id 5614622812f47-3e601b6a33aso1707092b6e.0 for ; Fri, 08 Nov 2024 17:02:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=leadboat.com; s=google; t=1731114160; x=1731718960; darn=postgresql.org; h=user-agent:in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version:references :message-id:subject:to:from:date:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=QUfJTjc4CV7OS29XZINRwmXGjeFh0nPU88wvankkE04=; b=XTjRN6XQWwt4k1+XQGIvXJ3y7NZY4JLZPBpQcGVNQx4x98YrN5hk6+C8L0mJqdhfno bXmV0fzj0NZX3x7giNnDVAezdmc3HLTDpWWsMpIs0WhlFGU1/aqBdGWU0NC3tYfkXSLa rOpUDn3U+bzm2CLahIu9GPLpxp0YAqxiUk05Y= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1731114160; x=1731718960; h=user-agent:in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version:references :message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=QUfJTjc4CV7OS29XZINRwmXGjeFh0nPU88wvankkE04=; b=ljAkedtPwhgA+p98+GX6i17d7nprHPwrbIdar+ZKL2SoGVDRfth+aG7RV0raGDGcTC jC1MH9CD33mAd0/ccuNUnHyNrk0BmnKZoQlN3v7qsHyU3iIROTgb8T9XV28fL24mZArE 9S4++qBXXNMOPWSeSI9IrJ1wgrLl0C448ems0cJZYSFACU0MPdo/hD7seRBPXbt0XcPj a7sScsqpSsN6dg0e9UNnB77UzB9GTHHEnAMkRbr9+6EoLbzeQhND+YWViu822tsvQH4T cJiM/ghKO77mEVZd8LjtUYtCNflcw2gl8NGJ3WLxJ8e2j58EkJlSlz4c9a3Jxs587MJf OAJw== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCVX6+/VBAe5XyhiHom7yo2RNYGdftXnOZeGmLWWMZeTF1Uro0eubSrnylodIq/sPj5DGrrAJ3RpHo86BvyL@postgresql.org X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Ywzzun5Y5GyMIR+JCAgv/NRF75jUsRILpVY/BFWvFERhNWeB9n4 PYUjkJduzklIwDiq0PJJJvxqQC0wOSRyHvbDCVaoDVYTc2x+hhKZvIn7R1tChA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGqwhBCKzyECViHlS2J4GpaphrtBP0i6uGzbjLeacbO9rXNIyXOJOl5gF4BIxvTVsRfEZkS2w== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:15a5:b0:3e6:60e9:5f8c with SMTP id 5614622812f47-3e79470c580mr5756744b6e.36.1731114159899; Fri, 08 Nov 2024 17:02:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from google.com ([2600:1702:a20:5750::48]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 46e09a7af769-71a10920002sm1035538a34.65.2024.11.08.17.02.38 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 08 Nov 2024 17:02:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2024 17:02:36 -0800 From: Noah Misch To: Alexander Lakhin , Nitin Motiani , Andres Freund , pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Inval reliability, especially for inplace updates Message-ID: <20241109010236.93.nmisch@google.com> References: <20241024025357.a8.nmisch@google.com> <20241031013924.cd.nmisch@google.com> <10ec0bc3-5933-1189-6bb8-5dec4114558e@gmail.com> <20241031200139.b4@rfd.leadboat.com> <20241101042052.4c.nmisch@google.com> <20241101233829.9f.nmisch@google.com> <20241103182925.93.nmisch@google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20241103182925.93.nmisch@google.com> User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.12 (2023-09-09) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On Sun, Nov 03, 2024 at 10:29:25AM -0800, Noah Misch wrote: > Pushed as 0bada39. > > Buildfarm member hornet REL_15_STABLE was in the same hang. Other buildfarm > runs 2024-10-25T13:51:02Z - 2024-11-02T16:04:56Z may hang the same way. It's > early to make a comprehensive list of hung buildfarm members, since many > reported infrequently even before this period. I'll wait a week or two and > then contact the likely-hung member owners. I regret the damage. Buildfarm members plover and (less likely) sevengill might be hung in this way. Owners (bcc'd): if convenient, please check whether a buildfarm run that started before 2024-11-02T16:04:56Z is still ongoing. If it is, please use "kill -QUIT" on one of the long-running autovacuum workers. If it's the same hang, one autovacuum worker will have stack frames like: #37 0x0000555e8a4fabcb in CacheInvalidateHeapTupleCommon (prepare_callback=0x555e8a4fa320 , newtuple=newtuple@entry=0x0, tuple=tuple@entry=0x7f168e9a74e8, relation=relation@entry=0x7f168f1738c8) at inval.c:1504 #38 0x0000555e8a094f7c in heap_inplace_update_and_unlock (relation=0x7f168f1738c8, oldtup=0x555eb277ea58, tuple=0x7f168e9a74e8, buffer=3) at heapam.c:6354