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Fri, 22 Aug 2025 05:40:44 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kurilemu.de; s=schmee; t=1755855640; bh=cQIlFP38c2MxDgq121ABve5PTx93Rcm5TqaxjmKZcf8=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:From; b=nQkmFqxUIOQM82OnRZWWNAeMkkIFDiCmOQ2s4n9KlosWheH2kT6qBgLiwysr/OP8N XylJgFG79vifE2TvkOqdq5QG/R++/0Roj7ICzljrCsMVsIPw8rWqrfrnyNBBrS3WAS Zl6QLn9creRtQlDap0ePMSQqdDlgDc+RFQPSB7vy8KNR13cNnpU8e+5kVsYiX1pzfV 1bvWpKYBilfKdXi7DzOdOBx8D+a0BEE/5znP+nQCo0SGQNLH+OXv+9goCbGKcl8/uv gtOUfrm/AjnIpRMJHwVvavfd0u0hbQQfXIja8i/AjKyOFvO89go+dRG7r4wLNl0qvo s1OAIPa3jZhXQ== Received: by schmee.kurilemu.internal (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C6DED6E; Fri, 22 Aug 2025 11:40:40 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2025 11:40:40 +0200 From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=81lvaro?= Herrera To: Robert Treat Cc: Pg Hackers , Antonin Houska , Fujii Masao , Mihail Nikalayeu Subject: Re: Adding REPACK [concurrently] Message-ID: <202508220940.u6qkixbhu7xs@alvherre.pgsql> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On 2025-Aug-21, Robert Treat wrote: > What's the plan for clusterdb? It seems like we'd ideally create a > stand alone pg_repackdb which replaces clusterdb and also allows us to > remove the FULL options from vacuumdb. I don't think we should remove clusterdb, to avoid breaking any scripts that work today. As you say, I would create the standalone pg_repackdb to do what we need it to do (namely: run the REPACK commands) and leave vacuumdb and clusterdb alone. Removing the obsolete commands and options can be done in a few years. -- Álvaro Herrera PostgreSQL Developer — https://www.EnterpriseDB.com/