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Before this > patch, when debugging via psql, a superuser could easily do: > > ``` > # set log_min_messages = debug5 > ``` > > to temporarily increase verbosity for the current backend. With the > new syntax, doing the equivalent now requires copying the entire > log_min_messages string and modifying just one part, which feels > noticeably heavier for quick debugging. Nonsense. You can still do the above, and it has the same behavior as before. -- Álvaro Herrera PostgreSQL Developer — https://www.EnterpriseDB.com/ "Curiosity is the hope that something wondrous waits just out of sight, for we are surrounded by a garden of miracles" (Namron) (Marjorie Liu and Sana Takeda, Monstress: Inferno)