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charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On 2026-Feb-13, Alexandre Felipe wrote: > Hi Andreas, > > I tried resending, multiple times. I tried the last change, the first > message, the message with the last patches, and a few others. Yeah, it's not really guaranteed to work -- I think it would especially fail to work if the original message comes from a domain that's strict about its DMARC configuration; though there may be other issues as well. I think we need to rewrite that feature somehow. For instance, maybe we can send the message (or the thread) as an attachment in a new email, rather than delivering the original as is. -- Álvaro Herrera Breisgau, Deutschland — https://www.EnterpriseDB.com/