Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rkTEI-00Cwea-Ew for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 13 Mar 2024 18:21:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rkTEH-00A3Ms-0R for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 13 Mar 2024 18:21:29 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rkTEG-00A3Mj-Nh for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 13 Mar 2024 18:21:29 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([68.162.161.243]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rkTED-004KVA-HJ for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Wed, 13 Mar 2024 18:21:27 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 42DILKUQ2074094; Wed, 13 Mar 2024 14:21:20 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: Robert Treat cc: Bruce Momjian , Jeremy Schneider , Daniel Gustafsson , Michael Banck , Nathan Bossart , PostgreSQL Hackers Subject: Re: Reports on obsolete Postgres versions In-reply-to: References: <20240311211204.GA1786481@nathanxps13> <65f02a88.170a0220.805a4.01ff@mx.google.com> Comments: In-reply-to Robert Treat message dated "Wed, 13 Mar 2024 14:04:16 -0400" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-ID: <2074092.1710354080.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 14:21:20 -0400 Message-ID: <2074093.1710354080@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk Robert Treat writes: > On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 1:12 PM Bruce Momjian wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 09:21:27AM -0700, Jeremy Schneider wrote: >>> In my view, the best thing would be to move toward consistently using >>> the word "patch" and moving away from the word "minor" for the >>> PostgreSQL quarterly maintenance updates. >> I think "minor" is a better term since it contrasts with "major". We >> don't actually supply patches to upgrade minor versions. > I tend to agree with Bruce, and major/minor seems to be the more > common usage within the industry; iirc, debian, ubuntu, gnome, suse, > and mariadb all use that nomenclature; and ISTR some distro's who > release packaged versions of postgres with custom patches applied (ie > 12.4-2 for postgres 12.4 patchlevel 2). Agreed, we would probably add confusion not reduce it if we were to change our longstanding nomenclature for this. I'm +1 on rewriting these documentation pages though. Seems like they could do with a whole fresh start rather than just tweaks around the edges --- what we've got now is an accumulation of such tweaks. regards, tom lane