Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jnSdF-0003oU-6H for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 22 Jun 2020 20:01:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jnSdE-0007St-2N for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 22 Jun 2020 20:01:28 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jnSdD-0007Sl-S2 for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 22 Jun 2020 20:01:27 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([66.207.139.130]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jnSdB-0002qs-Mw for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 22 Jun 2020 20:01:26 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 05MK1Mn92087842; Mon, 22 Jun 2020 16:01:22 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: Robert Haas cc: Peter Eisentraut , PostgreSQL Hackers Subject: Re: More tzdb fun: POSIXRULES is being deprecated upstream In-reply-to: References: <1390.1562258309@sss.pgh.pa.us> <1452646.1592417333@sss.pgh.pa.us> <1753692.1592594861@sss.pgh.pa.us> <1754851.1592596507@sss.pgh.pa.us> Comments: In-reply-to Robert Haas message dated "Fri, 19 Jun 2020 16:02:03 -0400" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <2087840.1592856082.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2020 16:01:22 -0400 Message-ID: <2087841.1592856082@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk Robert Haas writes: > It might be nice to know what > Debian, RHEL, etc. plan to do about this, but I'm not sure how > practical it is to find out. By luck, we now have a moderately well-educated guess about that from Paul Eggert himself [1]: : Probably NetBSD will go first as they tend to buy these changes : quickly; maybe six months from now? Debian and RHEL probably a couple : of years. These are all just guesses. Based on that, I'd say that assuming v12 and earlier won't have to deal with this issue does indeed amount to sticking our heads in the sand. I don't intend to do anything about this until this week's beta wrap cycle is complete, but I'm still leaning to the idea that we ought to back-patch something. Maybe the "something" could be less than a full posixrules-ectomy, but I'm not really satisfied with any of the other alternatives I've thought about. regards, tom lane [1] https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/9d8b5ec4-7094-04f6-d270-db0198d0= 9bd1%40cs.ucla.edu