Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1md0Nh-0001M7-F4 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 20 Oct 2021 01:27:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1md0Nf-0003S9-Nt for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 20 Oct 2021 01:26:59 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1md0Nf-0003RV-FD for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 20 Oct 2021 01:26:59 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([66.207.139.130]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1md0Nc-0001Ld-OA for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Wed, 20 Oct 2021 01:26:59 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 19K1Qr022095815; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 21:26:53 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: Andres Freund cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [RFC] building postgres with meson In-reply-to: <20211020010859.fsdh5c6r2gaatpal@alap3.anarazel.de> References: <20211012083721.hvixq4pnh2pixr3j@alap3.anarazel.de> <20211019183419.nsbr5n652n3sfqpv@alap3.anarazel.de> <1949598.1634671335@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20211020010859.fsdh5c6r2gaatpal@alap3.anarazel.de> Comments: In-reply-to Andres Freund message dated "Tue, 19 Oct 2021 18:08:59 -0700" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <2095813.1634693213.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 21:26:53 -0400 Message-ID: <2095814.1634693213@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk Andres Freund writes: > On 2021-10-19 15:22:15 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> I'm more concerned about the effort involved in getting meson going on = some >> other old animals, such as prairiedog. > Yea, that's an *old* OS version. One version too old to have support for > @rpath, added in 10.5 :(. Is there a reason to run 10.4 specifically? > According to wikipedia 10.5 is the last version to support ppc. My notes say Currently running OSX 10.4.11 (last release of Tiger); although 10.5 L= eopard supports PPCs, it refuses to install if CPU speed < 867MHz, well beyon= d the Cube's ability. Wikipedia does suggest it's possible to run Leopard, = but... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Leopard#Usage_on_unsupported_ha= rdware I'm not sure that I have install media for 10.5 anymore, either --- ISTR some machine's CD drive failing and not letting me get the CD back out. If I did have it, I don't think there'd be a way to update past 10.5.0 (surely Apple no longer has those updaters on-line?), so on the whole I think that path is a nonstarter. I do have 10.5 running on an old G4 PowerMac, but that machine is (a) noisy (b) power-hungry and (c) getting flaky, so I'm uneager to spin up a buildfarm animal on it. As with the HPPA, a potential compromise is to spin up some newer BSD-ish system on it. I agree that OSX 10.4 is uninteresting as a software platform, but I'd like to keep 32-bit PPC represented in the farm. regards, tom lane