Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1h2etA-0001oC-K4 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 09 Mar 2019 16:31:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1h2et6-0000jK-Bx for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 09 Mar 2019 16:31:52 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1h2et5-0000j8-SR for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Sat, 09 Mar 2019 16:31:52 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([66.207.139.130]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1h2esy-0005aV-1y for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Sat, 09 Mar 2019 16:31:49 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x29GVasl021149; Sat, 9 Mar 2019 11:31:36 -0500 From: Tom Lane To: David Rowley cc: Andrew Dunstan , Jeff Janes , Jeremy Schneider , Joe Conway , Peter Geoghegan , PostgreSQL Hackers Subject: Re: Should we increase the default vacuum_cost_limit? In-reply-to: References: <241b80ab-7af0-c606-7b2c-b0a5d6be696a@joeconway.com> <4a068b09-5a6f-e975-07c9-2333fcef0a8a@amazon.com> <30411a5b-ef11-71ef-e9ee-4d26ef3fd0c0@2ndQuadrant.com> <21034.1552068630@sss.pgh.pa.us> <13d143dd-0a44-0c16-218c-bc924b5922f0@2ndQuadrant.com> <26656.1552096451@sss.pgh.pa.us> <28720.1552101086@sss.pgh.pa.us> Comments: In-reply-to David Rowley message dated "Sat, 09 Mar 2019 22:28:12 +1300" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <21147.1552149096.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2019 11:31:36 -0500 Message-ID: <21148.1552149096@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk David Rowley writes: > I agree that vacuum_cost_delay might not be granular enough, however. > If we're going to change the vacuum_cost_delay into microseconds, then > I'm a little concerned that it'll silently break existing code that > sets it. Scripts that do manual off-peak vacuums are pretty common > out in the wild. True. Perhaps we could keep the units as ms but make it a float? Not sure if the "units" logic can cope though. > My vote is to 10x the maximum for vacuum_cost_limit and consider > changing how it all works in PG13. If nothing happens before this > time next year then we can consider making vacuum_cost_delay a > microseconds GUC. I'm not really happy with the idea of changing the defaults in this area and then changing them again next year. That's going to lead to a lot of confusion, and a mess for people who may have changed (some) of the settings manually. regards, tom lane