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Jacob Champion:
>> However, if the other deps are considered problematic as well, then the
>> ship has already sailed, and there is not point for a special case here
>> anymore.
> I think this line of argument is unlikely to find traction. Upthread
> there were people asking if we could maybe split out other
> possibly-unused dependencies in the future, like Kerberos.

Well, yes, that's kind of what I'm saying. There shouldn't be a special 
case for cURL, but those other deps should be handled equally as well.

And if that means making libpq modular at run-time, then this should be 
planned and built with all deps, and other use-cases (like static 
linking) in mind - and not like it is right now.

Best,

Wolfgang

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Jacob Champion:<br>
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cite="mid:CAOYmi+=fhzr4Mm5MVwFa+pmwn-uSrPpjfYNfQ9EPBLh8xPV3cA@mail.gmail.com">
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      class="moz-quote-pre">However, if the other deps are considered problematic as well, then the
ship has already sailed, and there is not point for a special case here
anymore.
</pre></blockquote><pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">I think this line of argument is unlikely to find traction. Upthread
there were people asking if we could maybe split out other
possibly-unused dependencies in the future, like Kerberos.</pre></pre>
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    <p>Well, yes, that's kind of what I'm saying. There shouldn't be a
      special case for cURL, but those other deps should be handled
      equally as well.</p>
    <p>And if that means making libpq modular at run-time, then this
      should be planned and built with all deps, and other use-cases
      (like static linking) in mind - and not like it is right now.</p>
    <p>Best,</p>
    <p>Wolfgang</p>
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