Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q6dAl-0005jG-5g for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 06 Jun 2023 20:20:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q6dAk-0007Kn-1Q for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 06 Jun 2023 20:20:54 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q6dAj-0007J1-O6 for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 06 Jun 2023 20:20:53 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([66.207.139.130]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1q6dAc-000eYp-Va for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 06 Jun 2023 20:20:53 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 356KKeYS227977; Tue, 6 Jun 2023 16:20:40 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: "Jonathan S. Katz" cc: Joe Conway , Robert Haas , Jeff Davis , Daniel Verite , Peter Eisentraut , Andrew Gierth , pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org Subject: Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction In-reply-to: <3e51d7f8-284e-29d5-39c9-3b7d6b4a53dc@postgresql.org> References: <45f0cd77-9c85-4c5e-9396-adbccdb635e2@manitou-mail.org> <221408.1686079526@sss.pgh.pa.us> <225170.1686081345@sss.pgh.pa.us> <531936a9-31cb-9734-5a66-7c210133cc1b@joeconway.com> <3e51d7f8-284e-29d5-39c9-3b7d6b4a53dc@postgresql.org> Comments: In-reply-to "Jonathan S. Katz" message dated "Tue, 06 Jun 2023 16:00:55 -0400" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <227975.1686082840.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2023 16:20:40 -0400 Message-ID: <227976.1686082840@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk "Jonathan S. Katz" writes: > Since we're bikeshedding, "postgresql" or "builtin" could make it seem > to a (app) developer that these may be recommended options, as we're > trusting PostgreSQL to make the best choices for us. Granted, v16 is > (theoretically) defaulting to ICU, so that choice is made, but the > unsuspecting developer could make a switch based on that naming. I don't think this is a problem, as long as any locale name other than C/POSIX fails when combined with that provider name. regards, tom lane