Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cyLpv-0001Ft-1F for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2017 17:13:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cyLpu-00080f-Bj for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2017 17:13:42 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cyLoP-0003CL-3k for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2017 17:12:09 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([66.207.139.130]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cyLoM-00068N-R6 for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2017 17:12:08 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v3CHBkaH024530; Wed, 12 Apr 2017 13:11:46 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: Stephen Frost cc: Heikki Linnakangas , Bruce Momjian , Magnus Hagander , =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C1lvaro_Hern=E1ndez?= Tortosa , Andres Freund , pgsql-hackers Subject: Re: Some thoughts about SCRAM implementation In-reply-to: <20170412164204.GC9812@tamriel.snowman.net> References: <20170410183230.oxagjpfgj6xxmcwx@alap3.anarazel.de> <20170412004118.GC20340@momjian.us> <20170412005830.GU9812@tamriel.snowman.net> <20170412012532.GF20340@momjian.us> <20170412152629.GI20340@momjian.us> <20a91441-fa4c-ec2c-d813-c549066b8055@iki.fi> <8328.1492013344@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20170412164204.GC9812@tamriel.snowman.net> Comments: In-reply-to Stephen Frost message dated "Wed, 12 Apr 2017 12:42:04 -0400" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <24528.1492017106.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 13:11:46 -0400 Message-ID: <24529.1492017106@sss.pgh.pa.us> X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-hackers Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org Stephen Frost writes: > * Tom Lane (tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us) wrote: >> ... which the user can't tell apart from having fat-fingered the password, >> I suppose? Doesn't sound terribly friendly. A report of a certificate >> mismatch is far more likely to lead people to realize there's a MITM. > We might be able to improve on that. I'd sure be happier about this being a useful feature if we can. But unless someone has a design for that ready-to-go, that's another good reason to put it off. regards, tom lane -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers