Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1weOsO-004mFe-0S for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 30 Jun 2026 03:11:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1weOsL-0064wG-2m for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 30 Jun 2026 03:11:05 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1weOsL-0064w8-1M for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 30 Jun 2026 03:11:05 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([68.162.161.243]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.98.2) (envelope-from ) id 1weOsJ-00000000r1a-2vAS for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Tue, 30 Jun 2026 03:11:04 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.18.1/8.18.1) with ESMTP id 65U3B1Q02453090; Mon, 29 Jun 2026 23:11:01 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: Noah Misch cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: PROPERTY GRAPH pg_dump ACL minimization In-reply-to: <20260630023308.c7.noahmisch@microsoft.com> References: <20260630023308.c7.noahmisch@microsoft.com> Comments: In-reply-to Noah Misch message dated "Mon, 29 Jun 2026 19:33:08 -0700" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <2453088.1782789061.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2026 23:11:01 -0400 Message-ID: <2453089.1782789061@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk Noah Misch writes: > Most of the patch bulk (modest as it is) exists to keep support for dump= ing > from beta1. I'm not sure whether it was worth bothering. Breaking dump= from > a beta is without precedent known to me, so I just erred on the side of = not > breaking it. If we were to decide pg_dump could drop support for betas,= I'd > be fine with that. > This entails a catversion bump on the v19 branch. Those points are not unrelated. If you bump catversion then beta testers must use pg_upgrade to get from beta1 to beta2, so you should not drop support for dumping from beta1. I could agree with dropping that support after beta2, though. That'd imply having to update via beta2 to beta3 or later, but I doubt those hardy enough to test beta1 would have a problem with that. > If the master branch > already has a post-branch catversion bump by then, the two catversions s= hould > remain distinct. I'll use yyyymmdd1 for v19 and yyyymmdd2 for master. Check. (I didn't read the patch, just responded to your commentary.) regards, tom lane