Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mVGw4-0006t6-9o for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 28 Sep 2021 17:30:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mVGw3-0006L4-AK for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 28 Sep 2021 17:30:31 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mVGsz-0001TL-Bb for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 28 Sep 2021 17:27:21 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([66.207.139.130]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mVGsx-0004Ty-43 for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Tue, 28 Sep 2021 17:27:20 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 18SHRBC62852501; Tue, 28 Sep 2021 13:27:11 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: Michael Paquier cc: Andrew Dunstan , Mark Dilger , Noah Misch , PostgreSQL-development Subject: Re: Fixing WAL instability in various TAP tests In-reply-to: <2801531.1632795612@sss.pgh.pa.us> References: <32A1FDD1-9C7B-43B1-B3EE-49198DD3F887@enterprisedb.com> <20210925052151.GA4082552@rfd.leadboat.com> <2E9D28A3-1B54-446B-AC12-3BF86A2B522A@enterprisedb.com> <2502590.1632579467@sss.pgh.pa.us> <2B4C64CF-EE3F-474B-9685-6A927E5E49AE@enterprisedb.com> <20210925160039.GA4134968@rfd.leadboat.com> <193AC968-C348-4D81-88BC-384560F87500@enterprisedb.com> <2769443.1632773967@sss.pgh.pa.us> <2801531.1632795612@sss.pgh.pa.us> Comments: In-reply-to Tom Lane message dated "Mon, 27 Sep 2021 22:20:12 -0400" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <2852499.1632850031.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2021 13:27:11 -0400 Message-ID: <2852500.1632850031@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk I wrote: > So that's the same hardware, and identical PG source tree, and different > results. This seems to leave only two theories standing: I forgot theory 3: it's intermittent. Apparently the probability has dropped a lot since 2018, but behold: https://buildfarm.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/show_log.pl?nm=3Dflaviventris&dt=3D= 2021-09-28%2014%3A20%3A41 (with successful runs just before and after this one, on the same animal) Note that the delta is not exactly like the previous result, either. So there's more than one symptom, but in any case it seems like we have an issue in WAL replay. I wonder whether it's bloom's fault or a core bug. regards, tom lane